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  1. I'm more likely to reserve the description "petty...

    I'm more likely to reserve the description "petty and stupid" for people who resurrect a thread for the sole purpose of calling the persons holding an opposing opinion "petty and stupid". If this...
  2. Did you also know that you can install an...

    Did you also know that you can install an alternative desktop straight from the repository? So since you seem to be confused as to what is relevant to this discussion, Merriam Webster defines default...
  3. If that's true then why not change the default on...

    If that's true then why not change the default on fedora, such as it exists, from gnome shell? According to you it doesn't matter anyway.

    Maybe because you're entire post is bullshit? Thanks, see...
  4. I'm not completely convinced they are. As for...

    I'm not completely convinced they are. As for your follow ups, they aren't worthy of response since many of the people affected were part of the structure of the project and other stakeholders such...
  5. That's because it is not possible to work with...

    That's because it is not possible to work with the project. Their policy has been to reject all additions that don't meet the criteria of their design documents, and indeed to remove existing...
  6. Some are better than others, and anything lacking...

    Some are better than others, and anything lacking the words "Gnome Shell" is less useful. However we can take some things away from this poll just like the others. What I can't figure out is why you...
  7. Hamish Wilson, in order to save time and avoid an...

    Hamish Wilson, in order to save time and avoid an endless back and forth about irrelevant topics, I am not going to directly refute every one of your statements. I just want to clarify a couple...
  8. Right, so what you're saying is that as a Fedora...

    Right, so what you're saying is that as a Fedora user who uses Cinnamon, I shouldn't comment in a forum topic called "Fedora Proposal To Use Cinnamon Desktop By Default". Further, I should ignore the...
  9. Again, nobody here cares what desktop anyone...

    Again, nobody here cares what desktop anyone uses. This discussion is about the default desktop only serving a minority of users and removing functionality that everyone else uses.



    It doesn't...
  10. For me the magic feature is tree view. For others...

    For me the magic feature is tree view. For others it will be a different missing feature because they pulled out a complete bullet list for the 1.6 cycle.

    BTW, if you click through your link to...
  11. Why should end users waste time installing...

    Why should end users waste time installing missing functionality when other desktop environments have sane defaults? What gnome developers did to nautilus is just another example of hubris. Either...
  12. There are numbers, you just refuse to acknowledge...

    There are numbers, you just refuse to acknowledge them. They show gnome polling at roughly 25% of install base. Gnome used to exceed kde and now it's doing roughly half of kde, excepting on fedora.
    ...
  13. It's a strawman because the keybindings are not...

    It's a strawman because the keybindings are not what is being criticized. Further, similar keybindings are available on every desktop environment; Cinnamon's equivalent functionality, gnome do,...
  14. Perhaps you don't understand my original...

    Perhaps you don't understand my original criticism. Gnome Shell does not do anything useful with the desktop nor do they support nautilus controlling the desktop. Whether or not code from nautilus is...
  15. Apologies. I did not realize that Krunner was a...

    Apologies. I did not realize that Krunner was a keyboard launcher like Gnome Do, so I didn't realize the context of your response. I thought it was an argument redirecting from Gnome Shell's...
  16. Linux Mint started with gnome shell extensions....

    Linux Mint started with gnome shell extensions. MGSE was abandoned in favor of something that would be less limiting.
  17. Then I fail to see the relevance of your response...

    Then I fail to see the relevance of your response to my criticism of gnome shell.
  18. I don't believe that they are moving any code...

    I don't believe that they are moving any code into Gnome Shell. Their minimalist approach to the desktop does not allow it to do anything useful like contain icons or widgets. I'm glad you can change...
  19. Exactly, Cinnamon makes Gnome3 technology useful...

    Exactly, Cinnamon makes Gnome3 technology useful again.


    This is a problem with large amounts of windows open, and the traditional fix is application grouping. Personally I prefer it without...
  20. Sure, some people will prefer doing things in a...

    Sure, some people will prefer doing things in a less efficient manner. That is fine. For me, it comes down to the desktop. On my 21" screen I have a bunch of prime real estate available, and gnome...
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