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    The stack dump showed that the crash was...

    The stack dump showed that the crash was happening in sb, the optional shader optimizer. Started X with R600_DEBUG=nosb and everything came up!

    The X display came up slowly (a couple minutes), and...
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    Thanks for the hints Grad! The packages and build...

    Thanks for the hints Grad! The packages and build order were ok. The placement of options between xorg.conf and glamor.conf, though, seems to be really touchy. After a few iterations with that...
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    Close, but no cigar

    I tried Glamor again with better results than last time, maybe. Runs ok, but with software rendering "feel". Only visual bug is that the cursor is maybe a 75-100px square dot cloud. But, it's not...
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    Hmmm. Most 2d drawing is in good shape these...

    Hmmm. Most 2d drawing is in good shape these days, but there are some things here and there.

    Just moving a window around in twm (I know :-) used to be slow and laggy, but it's good now. At times...
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    The card was great under Catalyst, but is no...

    The card was great under Catalyst, but is no longer supported. With the free drivers, 3d performance is decent (and has improved a lot in the past couple years), but 2d has never been very good.
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    Have any other Radeon users had any luck with GLAMOR?

    I've tried it a couple times, but performance was never usable for me (2 minutes to bring up the X display). Any hints would be much appreciated. Special xorg.conf options? Conflicts with other...
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    Quick, someone tell Linus!

    It really makes his day when desktop environments screw around with the mouse buttons for no reason.

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2843366
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    Quiet, they'll hear you!!!

    OMG, this is the best, most concise, and most accurate description of the GNOME project's vision.

    I, for one, thank them for allowing me to use a mouse AND a keyboard (both!)[/QUOTE]

    Quiet,...
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