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    ...xfce

    This thread is a bit of an overreaction. Current XFCE is very much like 2 years ago gnome 2. The 4.8 release made it a lot more like gnome2 when gnome dropped it, then 4.10 was mostly polish.
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    Really?

    Is anyone going to step up and say that maybe he's actually right? The driver situation is a mess, it's hard enough to target the proprietary drivers, but then you still have people complaining about...
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