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  1. Typically it should just be a matter of a...

    Typically it should just be a matter of a recompile after the ABI bump. Some times there are API changes, but not really something that should take more than 30 minutes to sort. (But I expect the...
  2. yeah.. but afaiu incompatible from license...

    yeah.. but afaiu incompatible from license standpoint. (and let's be honest... the more permissive license is the reason for llvm..)
  3. oh, certainly.. this is why LLVM is so...

    oh, certainly.. this is why LLVM is so frustrating. I think a lot of us would like to be able to use LLVM more easily
  4. And, well, even if you don't bring it into the...

    And, well, even if you don't bring it into the mesa src tree (which would at least allow for easier patching if needed), the current recommended way to cope w/ LLVM seems to be to statically link...
  5. wtf have you been snorting? by unruly, I mean...

    wtf have you been snorting?

    by unruly, I mean lack of stable ABI, use of globals and static constructors, etc.. not really the thing that you look for in a dependency.
  6. I'm not entirely sure how "frightened of...

    I'm not entirely sure how "frightened of logistical nightmare" == "political".. Ian and others have stated their reasons. Ian is still responsible for getting drivers that work into the hands of...
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    fwiw, adreno_common.xml is really stuff that is...

    fwiw, adreno_common.xml is really stuff that is in common between a2xx and a3xx. It used to be that most of the registers the kernel had to deal with were same between a2xx and a3xx. Now a4xx moves...
  8. Well, whatever happens, I expect OpenGL will be...

    Well, whatever happens, I expect OpenGL will be around for quite some time. And in both cases drivers still need a compiler infrastructure. So I don't think OpenGL-next really changes anything here.
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    fwiw, it seems like the higher end a4xx series...

    fwiw, it seems like the higher end a4xx series will support some form of fbc, although I've not seen how to use it yet (probably just not supported yet in current drivers?)... actually I pretty much...
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    True, once you go beyond 2 or 3G (depending on...

    True, once you go beyond 2 or 3G (depending on SoC) you start needing LPAE which adds some overhead. Still, I don't think even the x86 chromebooks ship with any more than 4G, which can certainly be...
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    yeah, if you are specifically interested in armv8...

    yeah, if you are specifically interested in armv8 then I guess wait.. although not sure how quickly they will trickle into chromebooks



    I happen to know a bit about it ;-)

    Haven't really dug...
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    tbh, I don't think 32b vs 64b is nearly as...

    tbh, I don't think 32b vs 64b is nearly as important as the gpu (plus FOSS driver to utilize it). if you want a FOSS ARM laptop, just go out and buy one of the current TK1's.. don't hold your breath...
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    Well, there is freedreno which (IMHO) runs pretty...

    Well, there is freedreno which (IMHO) runs pretty well on any adreno 3xx generation device (ie. any recent snapdragon).. and you don't even need a bleeding-edge mesa (10.2 will do). The rest of the...
  14. +1 for userspace VT.. putting it in systemd...

    +1 for userspace VT.. putting it in systemd doesn't seem unusual. It's the sort of thing you'd want pretty in pretty early userspace, so systemd seems like a natural fit.
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    no arguing with irrationality.. someone better...

    no arguing with irrationality..

    someone better not tell 'em that dbus uses sockets, lest they try to build a kernel without socket support :-P
  16. I don't expect LLVM vs NIR makes any difference...

    I don't expect LLVM vs NIR makes any difference to re-use from other mesa drivers, so much so as figuring out how to plumb it through gallium..

    The non-mesa drivers, we don't care about one way or...
  17. TGSI is not a real IR. Every gallium driver that...

    TGSI is not a real IR. Every gallium driver that needs to do any sort of optimization, instruction scheduling, etc, turns TGSI into it's own private internal IR.

    I'd be curious if they make the...
  18. I see very little in common between mir vs....

    I see very little in common between mir vs. wayland, and LLVM vs. NIR. At least the latter does not have impact on application writers, toolkit writers, etc. It is merely an implementation detail...
  19. s/take/teach/ :-P I really doubt an undergrad...

    s/take/teach/ :-P

    I really doubt an undergrad level compiler course would teach cwabbot anything new at this point.

    re: LLVM.. I'm not really sure it is worth the headache. It sounds very...
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    according to the first commit msg...

    according to the first commit msg (http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=1850d0a1cbf044dc4d29b7a9ede2c634f667d853) it is based in part on some of the community work that had started...
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