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    Sticky: I don't even remember what my first attempt was....

    I don't even remember what my first attempt was. Red Hat 5 or Mandrake Linux or something... Didn't last too long, rpm was too much of a pain in the ass.

    Then I found Debian and it was the first I...
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    Is that naming convention actually enforced? I...

    Is that naming convention actually enforced? I don't think it's that bad, though some unit names do look a bit weird. The ini-style configuration file syntax is something I don't particularly like...
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    Would you people please stop crying about...

    Would you people please stop crying about alternative implementations? None of you is ever going to write one anyway so it doesn't bloody matter at all!
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    Still the systemd opponents on Phoronix continue...

    Still the systemd opponents on Phoronix continue the tradition of ad hominems and FUD, with nothing that even tries to demonstrate why systemd just isn't better.

    Can I for a change get a real,...
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    The "rather simple user" benefits indirectly....

    The "rather simple user" benefits indirectly. With systemd providing shared components with well thought out interfaces, there's significantly less integration and testing work that the distro...
  6. Oh, and Re DNF speed... I use Fedora nowadays (I...

    Oh, and Re DNF speed... I use Fedora nowadays (I like to stay on the edge with my desktop systems, but I'm not going to compile source packages so Arch etc. are right out. Fedora strikes the best...
  7. Eh, working as intended

    The user requested the removal of pcre. Thus, the package manager computed the necessary operations to accomplish that request. Granted, it's not a good experience for a user who happens to be...
  8. I think systemd-networkd is intended as a more...

    I think systemd-networkd is intended as a more lightweight alternative for simpler use-cases.

    That said, the release notes look very promising. I think a good CLI was the big thing missing... I've...
  9. To accentuate this point, I would like to provide...

    To accentuate this point, I would like to provide an example of a particularly horrible (but portable! Therefore it's good, right?) init...
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    I had no idea there was an ignore list! Thanks,...

    I had no idea there was an ignore list! Thanks, and farewell.
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    Expanding on my earlier response, I think I know...

    Expanding on my earlier response, I think I know why my terminal didn't appear. X (VTY1) uses my Radeon GPU, whle console VTYs appear on my integrated graphics output since that's my boot GPU, and it...
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    This point is flat out wrong, and not a...

    This point is flat out wrong, and not a difference, since systemd is exactly the same. Killing either udevd or journald doesn't do anything... they just restart. Of course, if you have problems with...
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    This is the point that keeps confusing people....

    This is the point that keeps confusing people. the "systemd" application isn't really getting any bigger or accumulating features outside of its intended purpose. What is growing is the *project*,...
  14. What is this "good process supervisor"? Systemd...

    What is this "good process supervisor"? Systemd is an existing solution, while you propose something that doesn't exist. Do any process supervisors other than systemd it provide access to cgroups,...
  15. You restore the log files from a backup? I'd...

    You restore the log files from a backup? I'd rather take a logging system that tells me that my logs are corrupted and provides structure to them than a logging system where it's just text and you...
  16. See, this is what I mean when I said people...

    See, this is what I mean when I said people misunderstand systemd.

    System logging and network services have nothing to do with the init. Not even within systemd. Sure, journald and logind and...
  17. I know any reasoned arguments will fall on deaf...

    I know any reasoned arguments will fall on deaf ears here, but I feel like ranting.

    First of all, I've yet to see any convincing arguments as to why systemd is an awful thing. What I have seen...
  18. Point 1 is an empty argument unless you can show...

    Point 1 is an empty argument unless you can show how the systemd suite of services (Unlike what people seem to think, systems is far from a monolith) is needlessly more complicated than the...
  19. Some GNOME features depend on services provided...

    Some GNOME features depend on services provided by systemd or its subcomponents, via documented and stable DBUS interfaces.


    Nothing else provides these services, and the GNOME devs would rather...
  20. Please do not pretend to speak for others when...

    Please do not pretend to speak for others when voicing your own opinions.
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