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  1. That is good news, however, that might not work...

    That is good news, however, that might not work out too well, if systemd developers intend to keep the same attitude as when they rejected patches that made systemd work on non-GNU libc versions....
  2. To be completely fair, what Debian has decided is...

    To be completely fair, what Debian has decided is what init system will be the *default* init system in Debian. Debian has always shipped more than one init system and all software so far has worked...
  3. And it is perfectly fine to provide a monouser...

    And it is perfectly fine to provide a monouser fallback or a fallback with a non-functional lock screen or some other reduced functionality under this proposal. There would still be a bug asking to...
  4. Not providing an interface that did not exist a...

    Not providing an interface that did not exist a year ago can not be a bug higher than wishlist.

    Also, please look at logind. It was exactly the *active* init system that did matter there. logind...
  5. True, however, considering that systemd is not...

    True, however, considering that systemd is not the only init system in wide use and that freedom of choice between init systems is an important value for Debian, it is a bug to fully rely on presence...
  6. Pipe down, people. This has nothing to do with...

    Pipe down, people.

    This has nothing to do with whether systemd is good or bad. This is to make sure that every user of Debian can choose systemd or any other init system.

    This also has nothing...
  7. This is pure bull**** - Ians proposal has nothing...

    This is pure bull**** - Ians proposal has nothing to do with that troll group. It is pretty clear to most Debian developers that it is a bug for software to depend on being started by any particular...
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    Maybe, because they believe in component...

    Maybe, because they believe in component separation and independence, unlike systemd developers? There is no technical reason for logind to require that systemd is running and managing the system,...
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    First of all "loosing" does not mean there was a...

    First of all "loosing" does not mean there was a fight. There was a competion. Just like Olympics. Someone wins, someone looses.

    I am glad this is over.

    But really the hard part has just began....
  10. Thanks, was not aware that Open Build System did...

    Thanks, was not aware that Open Build System did actually get moving after all those years in development. Another example of Cannonical show an example that other follow years later and at some...
  11. Cannonical did a fantastic thing - they took the...

    Cannonical did a fantastic thing - they took the technically superior, but harder to install and a bit intimidating Debian and made it into a paragon of out-of-the-box usability that rest of the...
  12. RMS has always been an impractical idealist....

    RMS has always been an impractical idealist. However, things that were considered his feverish dreams are now mainstream. To be able to move forward, there must be people advocating for an ideal...
  13. At least from this test it looks like there is...

    At least from this test it looks like there is simply no point in even having an NVidia 620 video card in a laptop - the Intel GPU is almost as fast. :D
  14. Could it be feasible to include Windows and OS X...

    Could it be feasible to include Windows and OS X with their default filesystems into such tests as an additional reference point?
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    Web performance

    I am amazed at the web performance results. Could that be expanded into more real-life situations: static pages with nginx, full LAMP stack (with PHP, Perl and Python), django, turbo gears, ruby on...
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