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  1. well 2 facts first 1.) systemd arch full...

    well 2 facts first

    1.) systemd arch full install in x86_64 is less than 20mb, for arm is lot smaller. so i don't see size been a problem specially since any toolkit you use is prolly 20 times...
  2. well i use gentoo and arch both with systemd, i...

    well i use gentoo and arch both with systemd, i don't mean openRC treat me badly but systemd is just too far superior for my needs(TM), Cgroup PID1 is absolutely awesome for security and for tracking...
  3. trollfest in 3 2 ...

    trollfest in 3 2 ...
  4. only replace your cureent driver in Xorg.conf...

    only replace your cureent driver in Xorg.conf with wlglamor since xf86-video-wayland-git is software only last time i tried, i know in mesa works peachy for intel and all radeon cards but not sure...
  5. to complete the idea here, in resume(and in this...

    to complete the idea here, in resume(and in this order) Quartz, Surface Flinger and Mir work kinda similar and were conceived as the easy cheap way out of X11, aka trimm lots of fat from X, remove...
  6. surface flinger is something like Mir but android...

    surface flinger is something like Mir but android specific that offer the barely needed functionality for android GUI(like an android GUI specifically tailored strip down X/Mir that uses EGL)

    Mac...
  7. almost right(unless last week something changed...

    almost right(unless last week something changed in their repos), Mir is a server and compositor process that speak Mir protocol and can reuse android driver through libhubris as wayland do, a...
  8. when you wanna debate about a piece of...

    when you wanna debate about a piece of engineering that probably rank among the hardest 3 to do in the entire industry, you ask the expert and higly technical asset in an technical review board to...
  9. well FOSS dev comunity means the...

    well FOSS dev comunity means the developers/packagers/distro representatives/bussiness/foundations/contributing individuals and the like not every living been in the universe as those are user...
  10. you can propose and nurture any alternative you...

    you can propose and nurture any alternative you want and you use it as you want it until it grows enough to be accepted and supported for others than you but wait until everybody got a design in such...
  11. well this is true for most of your normal...

    well this is true for most of your normal consumer's application, i mean a social network apps for example don't have to care about anything than Qt5 already don't offer in a platform independant way...
  12. well after testing ubuntu unity 8 snapshot +...

    well after testing ubuntu unity 8 snapshot + ubuntu on my nexus and wayland in gnome 3.12, i can say for sure Mir is at least a year(if developed full steam ahead) from wayland state today. So far...
  13. well first you will need 1.) Digia offer...

    well first you will need

    1.) Digia offer upstream support for Mir, for now is downstream only (whine to them )
    2.) Mir specific driver code make it upstream (doesnt look good especially since...
  14. well another point (swiftly mentioned by martin)...

    well another point (swiftly mentioned by martin) is not all apps use big toolkit like Gtk/Qt5/EFL, for example VLC/Mplayer-Mpv/Blender/wxGtk based apps/etc, and in fact many of this applications have...
  15. well ironically the delayed adoption of wayland...

    well ironically the delayed adoption of wayland is actually X11 fault's, if you are a dev you will realize migrate an existing app to wayland is quite trivial on itself even more if you use Qt5 and...
  16. use arch linux and with testing and lcarlier...

    use arch linux and with testing and lcarlier repo, for me is rock solid since forever
  17. you are doing it wrong, if you wanna go manual...

    you are doing it wrong, if you wanna go manual build you need not only kernel and mesa but

    Xorg-1.15
    libdrm
    glamor
    xf86-video-ati
    mesa
    kernel
    llvm svn
    GLU
  18. the solution for that issue already exists and is...

    the solution for that issue already exists and is named archlinux.org + http://pkgbuild.com/~lcarlier/mesa-git/ and it even let you install drivers separately ;) and if you need to compile a packages...
  19. Michael and interested it seems that going back...

    Michael and interested it seems that going back to arch 3.13 default kernel and forcing active hyperz give me back full FPS as before, using mesa git ofc

    Radeon 7770 2GB
  20. yeah basically the problem is to deal with vram...

    yeah basically the problem is to deal with vram uploads so it don't end slower than single GPUs and probably this layer must be closer to mesa than the drivers so is flexible enough to be gpu...
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