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  1. Besides what imirkin said there is another point....

    Besides what imirkin said there is another point. Many people seems to think about a open source voluntary-based project as a software house product, where you can decide to move the human resources...
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    Qt is not tied to KDE, KDE is tied to Qt. Gtk+...

    Qt is not tied to KDE, KDE is tied to Qt. Gtk+ seem to be tied to Gnome, and that's exactly their problem.
  3. When did you dream this stuff? Wayland does not...

    When did you dream this stuff? Wayland does not behave like a language. Did you just make this up or did you read it somewhere? Besides, neither OpenGL/CL nor Mantle are languages (though they...
  4. Why does noone go to read the proposed patches...

    Why does noone go to read the proposed patches before starting typing nonsense?

    The point of this protocol is *not* to deal with fullscreen apps. Period.
    The point of this protocol is to deal...
  5. This is mainly to make the life easier for little...

    This is mainly to make the life easier for little compositors. With this protocol a compositor can just implement a Wayland backend and run on top of Weston instead of implementing all the X11, KMS,...
  6. Jolla contributes back a lot to the Mer/Nemo...

    Jolla contributes back a lot to the Mer/Nemo project which is fully opensource. It's not fair to compare it to Android. Google took Linux and made a lot of modifications which after years started to...
  7. No. The decision between server side and client...

    No. The decision between server side and client side allocated buffers is done entirely in the EGL implementation, Wayland and Wayland compositors don't care, at all. You can use the same compositor...
  8. That's just nonsense, what is it supposed to...

    That's just nonsense, what is it supposed to mean? Both Mir and wayland compositors use the underlying API to show anything onscreen, such as KMS, EGL, fbdev, whatever.
  9. I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you talking...

    I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you talking about the client side decorations? That may be problem, but a solution can be found. I don't know what's Mir's policy in regard to that but my bet is...
  10. And what way would that be? Mir and wayland...

    And what way would that be? Mir and wayland compositors work exactly the same in this regard.
  11. You don't know what you're talking about. Wayland...

    You don't know what you're talking about. Wayland is a protocol, and different implementations of that protocol, by definition, are compatible. You don't need KDE's compositor to run KDE...
  12. And why would that be clear? Mir has no magic...

    And why would that be clear? Mir has no magic closed source driver support, it uses the same system which can be used for wayland: libhybris.
  13. Why? It has nothing to do with wayland.

    Why? It has nothing to do with wayland.
  14. Oh, please Michael. If you gave to you the time...

    Oh, please Michael. If you gave to you the time needed to read the announcement on the ML instead of wanting to put out the article in four (4) minutes, you'd have realized that none of what you...
  15. The video was not recorded on a rpi, and i don't...

    The video was not recorded on a rpi, and i don't know how well orbital would run on it. If anyone could try, that'd be cool.
    That said, Orbital is not and will not be a DE. It is a (desktop) shell...
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    That's right. Termistor works in any wayland...

    That's right. Termistor works in any wayland compositor, though it needs the protocol implemented by that weston plugin to have the drop-down behavior. You can start it in Gnome shell or in a qt...
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    There are no "Wayland-compatible" compositors,...

    There are no "Wayland-compatible" compositors, and there is no "Wayland backend". There are Wayland compositors, that is compositors which use the Wayland protocol and library to communicate with...
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    It was always known. The wl_shell protocol was...

    It was always known. The wl_shell protocol was never developed into a full desktop shell protocol because the DE developers were needed to do a useful work.
  19. That's not the point. There is no problem in...

    That's not the point. There is no problem in doing that but when should that be done? The user expects the window to minimize when he clicks on the "_" button in the decorations. Since the...
  20. No, the protocol is not there. Wayland clients...

    No, the protocol is not there. Wayland clients need a protocol to ask the compositor to minimize them when the user clicks on the minimize button in the window decoration. Then the compositor will...
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