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  1. Hi mike4 You are in danger of becoming a...

    Hi mike4
    You are in danger of becoming a "bug-whiner", ie. someone who monotonically complains about a perceived bug in all the wrong places, presumably in order to "black mail" somebody to fix the...
  2. First, systemd isn't bloated by any reasonable...

    First, systemd isn't bloated by any reasonable definition of bloat. It is impressively small, even with all features turned on. It also replaces a lot of other programs like Cron, syslog etc. making...
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    If it is sarcasm, does that mean you didn't mean...

    If it is sarcasm, does that mean you didn't mean what you said? To phrase it otherwise, you don't actually mean what you say, so you don't mean that systemd developers actually make it their hobby to...
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    Remember that you claimed that systemd developers...

    Remember that you claimed that systemd developers introduced such bugs as a hobby and then _refused_ to fix them. Now you say that they actually fixed them. Do you retract your ridiculously claim now...
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    Again, that keyword issue was actually fixed, and...

    Again, that keyword issue was actually fixed, and pretty quick too. I have no idea why you take that as an example on systemd developers refusing to fix bugs. It simply wasn't the issue.



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    First, it is an objective fact that Upstart...

    First, it is an objective fact that Upstart doesn't solve some major and fundamental problems with init systems on Linux.
    Its inventor and lead developer for years, Scott James Remnant, even said...
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    I think the important thing here to remember is...

    I think the important thing here to remember is that systemd isn't a personal Poettering project, he is just a lead developer, there are at least 24 developers with commit access and +500...
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    I personally don't care whether Slackware changes...

    I personally don't care whether Slackware changes to systemd or not, haven't used it since floppies was a way of distributing Linux. The end result seems predictable.

    But I think you are...
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    In the interview with Patrick people usually are...

    In the interview with Patrick people usually are referring to when talking about Patrick stance on systemd and Slackware, he doesn't say at all that Slackware will never change to systemd, in fact he...
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    Your dig against Gnome is so typical for all...

    Your dig against Gnome is so typical for all systemd-haters. Claiming that "nobody cares about GNOME" is just such a distorted view of the world. You guys can't even see how much damage such nonsense...
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    First, binary log files are a fact on Posix...

    First, binary log files are a fact on Posix compliant systems (see utmp).

    Second; syslog text logs have been a broken concept for decades, so many projects and syslog variations have been tried...
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    It is just an observation of the factual state of...

    It is just an observation of the factual state of things. The point being that non-systemd users spend all their time trolling systemd threads instead of working on alternatives to systemd.

    So...
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    That GUI log viewer you found is quite...

    That GUI log viewer you found is quite symptomatic for how hard it is to make a useful GUI for syslog text logs since they aren't well structured and certainly not indexed.

    ksystemlog is a dead...
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    If Patrick decides that Slackware will use...

    If Patrick decides that Slackware will use systemd, then Slackware will change to systemd, period.

    IMHO, it is only a matter of time before he decides that, there simply isn't enough developers...
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    Those text and binary log files are just there...

    Those text and binary log files are just there for legacy reasons (binary utmp log files being a Posix thing), but they are not needed; everything is in the systemd journal, so it is easy to get a...
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    The point isn't solely what systemd distro's...

    The point isn't solely what systemd distro's offers right now, but also what is possible with systemd to make life easier for "simple users".

    Let us assume that "simple users" prefer a GUI to do...
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    Well considering that Debian, Ubuntu, Red Hat,...

    Well considering that Debian, Ubuntu, Red Hat, Suse, and most if not all the derivatives of those distros have switched to systemd or in the process of switching, it really underscores that systemd...
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    Logging for one thing. On non-systemd Linux...

    Logging for one thing. On non-systemd Linux systems the log files are scattered all over the distro: some in the users home dir, some in /var/log, some of them in binary form, some in text files.
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    systemd doesn't have a ntp daemon since it uses...

    systemd doesn't have a ntp daemon since it uses third party ntp solutions, but it does have a simple NTP _client_ (not enabled by default) called systemd-timesync. It is an ultra lightweight sntp...
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    The point is, that "ntpdated" is neither ntpd nor...

    The point is, that "ntpdated" is neither ntpd nor sntp. It is a bastard hack that has inherent accuracy flaws. Again look at the wiki-link where the ntpdated author is discouraging use of his...
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