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  1. ... system-wide means it runs as either a...

    ...
    system-wide means it runs as either a privileged user or with special privileges...

    running a sound server as a local user means that if you log out and another user logs in, that other user...
  2. how about a middle ground instead of being an...

    how about a middle ground instead of being an extremist
    not that i dislike assembly

    edit:
    do you have something useful to contribute,
    or just "you are this/that" ?

    PS "middle ground" for...
  3. YES, THATS IT you understand now what an init...

    YES, THATS IT
    you understand now what an init should do

    it's funny what you call abstract
    a language designed to start and loosely control processes is abstract to you
    but an INI stile file...
  4. k so, from wikipedia: "Ian Jackson is a long...

    k so, from wikipedia:

    "Ian Jackson is a long time free software author and Debian developer. Jackson wrote dpkg[1][2][3] (replacing a more primitive Perl tool with the same name), SAUCE (Software...
  5. ...the point was that it is a powerful...

    ...the point was that it is a powerful programming language
    you *can* do it right now, if you know how
    hint: it has variables, functions and stuff, so it can be done simply (source command is to...
  6. to add: simple process starting as done by all...

    to add:
    simple process starting as done by all the daemons, for example, does exactly what socket activation does but simpler and without the 60 lines patch against dbus/systemd
    result the same,...
  7. you would be better reading the ~600 C standard...

    you would be better reading the ~600 C standard book
    these thing were possible (and done) in the days of the intel 80386 (and even before)

    many programs do these things
    it's not something new...
  8. yes, since it solves no problems

    yes, since it solves no problems
  9. with mesa 10.2.6 on a 8800GT (that has no...

    with mesa 10.2.6
    on a 8800GT (that has no reclocking in nouveau) i get 16-25 fps in dota2
    same thing on proprietary 60-75 fps

    though dota2 now runs without bugs on nouveau :)
  10. and many other inits can do the same and some do...

    and many other inits can do the same
    and some do
    (even shell can, by importing common functions using the "source" command (it is a programming language..))

    in all this time i am still to find...
  11. ofc it's also a "UNIX fanboy" issue and "people...

    ofc
    it's also a "UNIX fanboy" issue and "people hate new stuff" issue and "people hate lennart" issue and "people don't understand how great it is" issue
    but that a simple gtk program like...
  12. dbus means libdbus, as writing using the dbus...

    dbus means libdbus, as writing using the dbus protocol yourself is brain damaging (at least for me)
    and it's not in the kernel yet and it needs a user space helper

    open local socket, fork, exec,...
  13. i just realized this morning you are suggesting...

    i just realized this morning
    you are suggesting a systemd specific mechanism (sd_notify) that uses the OO dbus with the reasoning that it is just a couple lines of code
    thus making it dependent on...
  14. yes, many differences take for example the...

    yes, many differences

    take for example the name of the program that sent the log msg
    it is written once and given an "id"
    an id is just a number and in the rest of the log it is used instead of...
  15. ... ...... idk what to say a modern server...

    ...
    ......
    idk what to say
    a modern server program does most of the work in worker threads, meaning that the main loop would work fine
    it can do work but send a 500 HTTP message
    it can work...
  16. and the whole point of all this is to show that...

    and the whole point of all this is to show that there are things a "service manager" just can not know are happening
    but a special 4 line script (or a very small C program, whatever) can

    if a...
  17. ah, so the program must be hacked for that...

    ah, so the program must be hacked for that feature to work
    instead of... you know... the program doing it itself
    note that a program can itself handle SIGSEGV and almost all other signals, except...
  18. it's things like this that make linux constantly...

    it's things like this that make linux constantly get better
    keep up the good work
  19. ... it is the difference between a banana...

    ...
    it is the difference between a banana written as "baeana" and as "apple"
    if a binary log is corrupt you have to rely on the tool to decode the rest of it properly
    if a ASCII text log is...
  20. one byte of corrupted text is one character, not...

    one byte of corrupted text is one character, not a line
    and the continuity of the log is not broken (so you would spot something like a wrong timestamp)
    one byte of corrupted binary log can do a...
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