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  1. LOL, check the AUR comments, they're in the...

    LOL, check the AUR comments, they're in the works. We've had wayland_shm enabled in efl-git for a while now, so I just enabled the drm engine and it should work fine for all uses. Having a few...
  2. networkd doesn't do that. If you configure...

    networkd doesn't do that. If you configure wpa_supplicant manually, you can use networkd on top of that, though.
  3. Yeah, Slackware and Arch are probably the least...

    Yeah, Slackware and Arch are probably the least likely to patch. Gentoo is a bit more liberal with patches, but not a lot.
  4. I can only hope this was a joke. Slackware, yes,...

    I can only hope this was a joke. Slackware, yes, but Debian is one of the more liberal patchers out there.
  5. It has been pointed out multiple times that...

    It has been pointed out multiple times that you're wrong on this. From that, I can draw a few conclusions. Either:
    A. You're too hard headed to listen to anyone else,
    B. You're too dumb to...
  6. The irony of that just kills me.

    The irony of that just kills me.
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    Yes, there have been plenty of configuration...

    Yes, there have been plenty of configuration issue, but there were atleast as many configuration issues with the previous sysvinit/initscripts.

    That's not what you were arguing, though, you were...
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    I call bullshit. I spend a lot of time on the...

    I call bullshit. I spend a lot of time on the Arch forums and have seen exactly zero (0) instances of systemd causing system instability.
  9. Your definition of an engineer is one who writes...

    Your definition of an engineer is one who writes 10 line bash scripts to automate USER facing tools? Yes, fdisk, mkfs, etc are user tools, not "engineer" tools. A true engineer would use a hex editor...
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    Debian's system is more complex than that,...

    Debian's system is more complex than that, though. I'm not going to go through to calculate it all out, for all I know, it could turn out the same.
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    Na, remember, it's not just the first vote that...

    Na, remember, it's not just the first vote that counts. N has enough second and third place votes that it *should* take it, even with Steve putting L first.
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    Why does what have to be PID1? cgroup control?

    Why does what have to be PID1? cgroup control?
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    The problem is that his behavior when things were...

    The problem is that his behavior when things were going against him was reprehensible. Yes, he has contributed much to the Linux community, but it only takes one melt down to undo a reputation.
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    Good to know that Debian, RHEL, and CentOS...

    Good to know that Debian, RHEL, and CentOS weren't taken seriously in enterprise settings.


    Um, what? How do you propose to resolve the different kernels having totally different capabilities?
    ...
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    logind would be a problem because it has a...

    logind would be a problem because it has a dependency on systemd, but as mentioned, udev is fine.

    You missed the whole point, though, systemd is not monolithic, so that claim is bullshit. That's...
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    Wrong. Yes, they are in the same code tree, but...

    Wrong. Yes, they are in the same code tree, but the udev binary has absolutely no relationship to systemd. It it completely and totally separate and can be used with any init system.
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    If cost was the major concern, Mir or Upstart...

    If cost was the major concern, Mir or Upstart wouldn't exist in the first place. They chose to write new software that deviated from their upstream, incurring both development cost and package...
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    You name components, then say it's monolithic? I...

    You name components, then say it's monolithic? I think you need to check a dictionary.

    udev is completely seperate, journald is easy to replace right now, logind has a stable API that can easily...
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    That's pretty much what option N is, by not...

    That's pretty much what option N is, by not issuing anything, they leave it up to the individual package maintainers to decide how to handle things. If software depends on systemd, the package can...
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    No, the CLA was only one consideration. There are...

    No, the CLA was only one consideration. There are many other technical reasons systemd was chosen. Read the tech ctte mailing list over the last couple of months where the members posted their...
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