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  1. That is not the point of MIR. In fact, i'm not...

    That is not the point of MIR. In fact, i'm not sure what that is, but MIR and Wayland have the same driver model, and once you have a driver that works with one of them it is easy to have it working...
  2. Well, but if you quickly play with it you realize...

    Well, but if you quickly play with it you realize that you can move the fake screenlock, or switch workspace, or whatever, while you can't do anything of these things with the real one.
    Granted,...
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    You may experience no visual artifacts and no...

    You may experience no visual artifacts and no tear, but the X architecture gives clients too much freedom to screw up with the user's environment, so a game chrashing will not restore the native...
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    This is only one of the many reasons wayland is...

    This is only one of the many reasons wayland is needed. Things i'm finally enjoying are tear-free movies, multimedia keys working with fullscreen games, games crashing not screwing up the monitor...
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    This question makes no sense. It'd be nice if you...

    This question makes no sense. It'd be nice if you looked at what Wayland is before talking about it. Wayland doesn't and never will implement support for multimedia keys on the lockscreen, or even...
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    Why would you like to remove choice and freedom...

    Why would you like to remove choice and freedom to some users who would like to have working multimedia keys when the screen is locked?
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    Gnome wouldn't be affected at all, mutter is a...

    Gnome wouldn't be affected at all, mutter is a standalone compositor.
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    Yes, that change makes the xwayland module usable...

    Yes, that change makes the xwayland module usable by other compositors.
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    Uhm... Michael, you seem a bit confused. ...

    Uhm... Michael, you seem a bit confused.



    This would be for compositors only, not for wayland clients. (Though a compositor can be a client too, but the client part wouldn't use libweston.)

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    Are you aware that KDE apps use Qt? Maybe Qt is...

    Are you aware that KDE apps use Qt? Maybe Qt is not more used than Gtk+, I don't know, but for sure it doesn't have a "very small market share in linux".
  11. You had said wayland does not fix tearing, now...

    You had said wayland does not fix tearing, now you say it does but you don't like the way it does so?
    Wayland has a modern architecture, and as such it is composited. Of course you are free to keep...
  12. Do you know what tearing is? It's that artifact...

    Do you know what tearing is? It's that artifact you see when an app draws to the framebuffer at the same time the graphics card is pushing it to the screen. That doesn't happen in Wayland, because...
  13. In Wayland. I said "It is possible that...

    In Wayland.



    I said "It is possible that there will be a way", not that there is. The point is that the compositor controls the user experience, already. The user doesn't decide to give focus...
  14. As I said already, apps have no way to steal or...

    As I said already, apps have no way to steal or even request the focus. Setting the focus is a compositor-initiated process. It is possible that there will be a way for apps to request the focus, I...
  15. I disagree. Anyway X allows them too. Of...

    I disagree. Anyway X allows them too.



    Of course the compositor is supposed to give the focus to one app based on user input. The point is that the focus doesn't come out of thin air, it's the...
  16. Wayland doesn't require client side decorations,...

    Wayland doesn't require client side decorations, simply put the current compositors do.
    And an app can't steal the focus, it is the job of the compositor to give it to which app it wants to.
  17. Besides what imirkin said there is another point....

    Besides what imirkin said there is another point. Many people seems to think about a open source voluntary-based project as a software house product, where you can decide to move the human resources...
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    Qt is not tied to KDE, KDE is tied to Qt. Gtk+...

    Qt is not tied to KDE, KDE is tied to Qt. Gtk+ seem to be tied to Gnome, and that's exactly their problem.
  19. When did you dream this stuff? Wayland does not...

    When did you dream this stuff? Wayland does not behave like a language. Did you just make this up or did you read it somewhere? Besides, neither OpenGL/CL nor Mantle are languages (though they...
  20. Why does noone go to read the proposed patches...

    Why does noone go to read the proposed patches before starting typing nonsense?

    The point of this protocol is *not* to deal with fullscreen apps. Period.
    The point of this protocol is to deal...
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