I recently switch from OpenRC to systemd on my Gentoo system and the difference is incredible. I don't see why anyone would want to stick with upstart.
Canonical just wait that you mature your work, when it performs good and it is ready, they fork it and continue the work in house.
Why talk with the project leader and his community when you can fork and do everything you want?
The dictator don't ask, the dictator command and conquer.
But if you haven't the people for continue that project in the right direction, after 1 or 2 years, the original project became better than the canonical fork and then they jump on the original and fork it again, or look to another project and fork it as well.
In both cases, no contribution will arrive upstream.
Contribution upstream? Never! This is the canonical's brand mark. :)
It really sucks that everything is dependent on systemd now.
udev, logind, pam, etc.
It just feels like a big monolithic mess where components cant be interchanged.
I heard some talks before about something about GNOME depend on systemd?
Whats next, PulseAudio depend on it too?
Just one big monolithic stack.
Now we have a central place to handle authentication, session management, automatic multi-seat, screen locking, suspend, hibernate and shutdown/reboot with policy management. A few days ago I tried to shutdown the computer from a virtual terminal and systemd asked me my password. I am amazed that policy management works all the way from the terminal to the graphical interface properly. None of this could be done without a central mechanism.
And don't get me started writing initscripts using hundreds of lines stupid bash script compared to approximately ten lines in a systemd service file.
I am no way affiliated with systemd, but I am sure systemd is one of the best things that has happened to linux, for a very very long while.
I hope they admit defeat and adopt systemd someday.
Not a big thing, it just shows the integration level. But I guess you don't like policykit either, then you are simply not in the intended audience.
Also, I didn't say that I was amazed because it asked for a password, I was amazed at the "integration level of the policy management". sudo has nothing to do with policy management.