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    Phoronix: Xamarin Studio Working On New Debugging Support

    For those using Xamarin Studio for their Mono app development, the integrated development environment will soon be featuring some enhancements for an improved debugging experience...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY3NTA

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    Michael you're missing a source link, and you don't even have your usual self-referential links

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    • #3
      Is there a Linux version at all?

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      • #4
        Why should we care if they bluntly piss on the Linux users (potential customers)?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by phoronix View Post
          Phoronix: Xamarin Studio Working On New Debugging Support
          Xamarin Studio doesn't even support Linux.

          Directly from http://xamarin.com/studio:

          Xamarin Studio is available for both OS X and Windows. This allows you to get the same amazing editing experience for your cross-platform code regardless of your operating system preference.
          Operating system preference that is either OS X or Windows...

          How about phoronix give this kind of coverage to IntelliJ and eclipse with 100% first class Linux support.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DanLamb View Post
            Xamarin Studio doesn't even support Linux.

            Directly from http://xamarin.com/studio:



            Operating system preference that is either OS X or Windows...

            How about phoronix give this kind of coverage to IntelliJ and eclipse with 100% first class Linux support.
            Xamarin Studio is really just Monodevelop with some extra proprietary plugins (i.e. Android and iOS support and tools), which does support linux. It's just the officially branded version that doesn't support linux.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
              Xamarin Studio is really just Monodevelop with some extra proprietary plugins (i.e. Android and iOS support and tools), which does support linux. It's just the officially branded version that doesn't support linux.
              That's the whole point. They could easily support linux but use petty excuses to not do it. https://bugzilla.xamarin.com/show_bug.cgi?id=142

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RushPL View Post
                That's the whole point. They could easily support linux but use petty excuses to not do it. https://bugzilla.xamarin.com/show_bug.cgi?id=142
                Oh I definitely agree that they're petty excuses and there's no real reason why we shouldn't be able to develop using Xamarin.Android under linux, however Monodevelop itself is fully supported and I don't really feel it's appropriate to hold that against the Mono or Monodevelop open source projects themself just because the primary backing company is being an ass about supporting linux.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
                  Oh I definitely agree that they're petty excuses and there's no real reason why we shouldn't be able to develop using Xamarin.Android under linux, however Monodevelop itself is fully supported and I don't really feel it's appropriate to hold that against the Mono or Monodevelop open source projects themself just because the primary backing company is being an ass about supporting linux.
                  I don't see way that is a petty excuse? If they sell the product they must support and guarantee the functionality off the product. If they don't think this investment has a big enough market I don't see what the alternative are.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Akka View Post
                    I don't see way that is a petty excuse? If they sell the product they must support and guarantee the functionality off the product. If they don't think this investment has a big enough market I don't see what the alternative are.
                    Yes but in that case they should just flat out state that "We don't think you have a large enough market share to be worth our time" as opposed to doing the usual illegitimate whining about fragmentation which has never been a valid excuse.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
                      [Xamarin Studio is] just the officially branded version that doesn't support linux.
                      Maybe you can make a case for covering MonoDevelop, but products like Xamarin Studio that flat out do not support Linux shouldn't be featured on a Linux site. Does Phoronix cover the new version of Visual Studio or Excel or Windows Media Player or iTunes?

                      Even MonoDevelop treats Linux as a second class OS. Look at the main download page (http://monodevelop.com/Download). It says "Select your Operating System" with only choices of Windows and Mac. Linux options are lower on the page and if you click them it says, "Packages for MonoDevelop 4.2.2 not yet available. The latest available version is MonoDevelop 2.6.0.1". Clearly, Linux isn't remotely a priority to them.


                      Other amazing, arguably better IDEs, like JetBrains IDEs such as IntelliJ and Android Studio, and RubyMine, etc have 100% full Linux support. They have clear downloads directly from their web site. Linux always gets betas and new releases on the same day as Windows and Mac.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DanLamb View Post
                        Maybe you can make a case for covering MonoDevelop, but products like Xamarin Studio that flat out do not support Linux shouldn't be featured on a Linux site. Does Phoronix cover the new version of Visual Studio or Excel or Windows Media Player or iTunes?

                        Even MonoDevelop treats Linux as a second class OS. Look at the main download page (http://monodevelop.com/Download). It says "Select your Operating System" with only choices of Windows and Mac. Linux options are lower on the page and if you click them it says, "Packages for MonoDevelop 4.2.2 not yet available. The latest available version is MonoDevelop 2.6.0.1". Clearly, Linux isn't remotely a priority to them.


                        Other amazing, arguably better IDEs, like JetBrains IDEs such as IntelliJ and Android Studio, and RubyMine, etc have 100% full Linux support. They have clear downloads directly from their web site. Linux always gets betas and new releases on the same day as Windows and Mac.
                        So? The same is true for most project. It is idiotic to try make distro package as upstream developer. "Linus" subsurface also only have package for WIndows and Mac and compilation instructions for linux....

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Akka View Post
                          So? The same is true for most project. It is idiotic to try make distro package as upstream developer. "Linus" subsurface also only have package for WIndows and Mac and compilation instructions for linux....
                          I am not sure if it is idiotic ... commercial editors like Sublime Text are friction less. I think QtCreator also has a pre-compiled package ... gotta love when something just works

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RushPL View Post
                            I am not sure if it is idiotic ... commercial editors like Sublime Text are friction less. I think QtCreator also has a pre-compiled package ... gotta love when something just works
                            Sublime is not open source.
                            Qt and digia is a much bigger company than something like xamarin. Yet I bet most of their users on linux use the version provided by the distro or build from source if they need something not provided by the standard binaries.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Akka View Post
                              So? The same is true for most project. It is idiotic to try make distro package as upstream developer. "Linus" subsurface also only have package for WIndows and Mac and compilation instructions for linux....
                              No. Subsurface has clear, accurate, up to date instructions on their main website for Linux users. Monodevelop does not. Monodevelop lists a wildly out of date Ubuntu version that suggests they don't care about Ubuntu Linux and put very little effort into it.

                              Providing only source for Linux vs providing binaries for Win/Mac, like the way Subsurface works is fine. Giving Linux users a second rate experience, like Monodevelop is not.

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