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  • #16
    Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
    The latest KDE 3.5.x release has no known bugs.
    Not sure if this is supposed to be a joke, but where did you get that wrong information from?

    The last KDE 3.5.X release had thousands of known bugs ...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Remco View Post
      But there is such a thing as software without known bugs.
      Yeah, and it's called "TeX".

      Bugs that aren't show stoppers shouldn't prevent a release. You can look at any complex project out there. The majority of them release even with known, non-critical bugs.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
        The latest KDE 3.5.x release has no known bugs.
        i know a bug.. if you rename a file in konquorer right klick on it and then rename and finish this all is fine.. but you do this on diverend files again and again behind konuorer crashes...

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        • #19
          Often in software engineering, fixing minor bugs can cause regressions or the introduction of major bugs.

          Early in the process you define target levels for each category of bug before release.

          Aiming for no known bugs is often not realistic with complex software. Each bug fix cycle introduces new bugs. You asymptotically reach 0 bugs if you are lucky. Otherwise the cycle never ends and you don't release in a timely manner.

          Perfect is the enemy of good.

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          • #20
            What I mean is that there are dozens of P2 bugs still open! They only fixed for now the P1.

            In GCC there are many bugs open sinece 4.0 release.

            I wish LLVM, Clang and friends will reach a stable and ready to use status soon.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by mat69 View Post
              Not sure if this is supposed to be a joke, but where did you get that wrong information from?

              The last KDE 3.5.X release had thousands of known bugs ...
              Well, I was browsing the KDE website, got to the 5.3.10 page and it said that there were no know bugs, so...

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              • #22
                Maybe they did something similar to what Gnome did when 2 was released?

                ie. close all old bugs telling to test against the new version..

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by curaga View Post
                  Maybe they did something similar to what Gnome did when 2 was released?

                  ie. close all old bugs telling to test against the new version..
                  No. KDE 4 has only the "KDE" name in common with KDE 3. It's not a new version. It's a new project altogether.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by KDesk View Post
                    What I mean is that there are dozens of P2 bugs still open! They only fixed for now the P1.

                    In GCC there are many bugs open sinece 4.0 release.

                    I wish LLVM, Clang and friends will reach a stable and ready to use status soon.
                    The same problems apply for LLVM aswell, the reason 2.7's release has been pushed forward is due to release blockers, and just like gcc they have non-critical bugs hanging around from previous releases. It's just a fact with big complex projects, have you ever looked at a Microsoft Visual Studio service pack?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                      No. KDE 4 has only the "KDE" name in common with KDE 3. It's not a new version. It's a new project altogether.
                      And its underlying tech will be used for about 10 years (and expanded ofcourse) as being said in the release video of a Google conference.

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                      • #26
                        Awesome! way to go GCC guys, keep up the good work.

                        I was going to say haha april fools, but I see this was posted yesterday.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                          The latest KDE 3.5.x release has no known bugs.
                          Bullshit. What a ridiculous claim.

                          Gentoo dropped KDE 3.5 from portage because of the numerous security vulnerabilities.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                            Well, I was browsing the KDE website, got to the 5.3.10 page and it said that there were no know bugs, so...
                            In any case that is not true, just look at bko.org, there are still many bugs with low numbers (i.e. pre 4.0) because some still apply to current trunk.

                            Originally posted by curaga View Post
                            Maybe they did something similar to what Gnome did when 2 was released?

                            ie. close all old bugs telling to test against the new version..
                            Exactly. You got it.
                            In fact it depends all on the maintainers how they handled it, but in KGet we closed any 3.5 bug as wontfix unless it still applies today.


                            Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                            No. KDE 4 has only the "KDE" name in common with KDE 3. It's not a new version. It's a new project altogether.
                            Also wrong, acutally many projects were able to share lots of code and only rewrite small portions. Just look at KIO e.g. -- one of the core libs of KDE -- a lot of old code in there. And that says nothing about the quality.

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                            • #29
                              It is possible that there were no "new" known bugs in the kde 3.5.10 release, since that was a relativly minor bugfix release. But it's ridiculous to claim that there aren't any older ones still hanging around. And LLVM/Clange/etc. are going to have the exact same thing happen to them. It happens to every major project out there, the only way to avoid it is to spend 5+ years frozen with no new features and only bugfixes, and if that were to ever happen people would just abandon the old project and create a fork that did take new features so that it wasn't falling so far behind the competition.

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                              • #30
                                Exactly. You can stop and start fixing all the bugs, but world won't stop and wait for you to finish it. Ever.

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