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  • Woah, It Looks Like Oracle Will Stand Behind OpenSolaris

    Phoronix: Woah, It Looks Like Oracle Will Stand Behind OpenSolaris

    Since Oracle acquired Sun Microsystems last year, the future of the Solaris and OpenSolaris operating systems have been called into question especially as the OpenSolaris 2010.1H release was missing and has been that way for months now with no official communication from Oracle. A new OpenSolaris release hasn't come in more than a year and we still are left wondering if or when it will arrive. Even the OpenSolaris Governing Board is out of the loop and they may abandon the cause in August if Oracle doesn't make their OpenSolaris intentions clear and appoint a liaison. This evening though is one of the first signs that Oracle may let the OpenSolaris operating system live on with their support...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODQyOQ

  • #2
    Woah, it looks like more inappropriate words in Phoronix articles that makes them look ridiculous. Woah, woah!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by RealNC View Post
      Woah, it looks like more inappropriate words in Phoronix articles that makes them look ridiculous. Woah, woah!
      Woah, Bill and Ted have traveled forward in time!

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      • #4
        Solaris is alive, no news here. OpenSolaris, as the base of Solaris, is alive, no news here too. But OpenSolaris as a packaged distribution, no clue: overall, no news.

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        • #5
          I don't know a lot about this subject but isn't Solaris still a significant player in the business world? OpenSolaris is one of the first things that come to mind if I had to look in to some Unixy system other than Linux. There's probably quite a lot of infrastructure out there relying upon it and I'd imagine if it because unsupported by Oracle then others would step in.

          Oracle does so much database stuff one would think it would be in their interests to have their name attached to a platform like Solaris.

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          • #6
            Hardly "the first of it's kind in months"

            I've sent those messages every two weeks for a couple years, and haven't taken a break lately (well, except for missing build 143, oops!) - you can see the ones two weeks ago for build 144, in June for build 142, in May for build 141, etc.

            The "Just when you thought you'd never see another one of these biweekly mails...." was a reference to the conversion of the X packages in build 144 to directly generate IPS packages, so they no longer go through the distro-import process to translate the old SVR4 format packages to IPS, and thus I only need to have them make changes now when I do something like this that affects the packages they're still translating.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by alanc View Post
              I've sent those messages every two weeks for a couple years, and haven't taken a break lately (well, except for missing build 143, oops!) - you can see the ones two weeks ago for build 144, in June for build 142, in May for build 141, etc.

              The "Just when you thought you'd never see another one of these biweekly mails...." was a reference to the conversion of the X packages in build 144 to directly generate IPS packages, so they no longer go through the distro-import process to translate the old SVR4 format packages to IPS, and thus I only need to have them make changes now when I do something like this that affects the packages they're still translating.
              Heh heh... in other words... WTF you chumps yapping about?

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              • #8
                This is not news at all. There are development builds of OpenSolaris going on. But since snv_134 they are not available to the public because of some weird Oracle policies. That's the main problem.

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                • #9
                  Go with Linux, forget OpenSolaris

                  Given that OpenSolaris and Linux can't cross-pollinate due to Sun/Oracle's choice of an incompatible license, FOSS developer resources put into OpenSolaris are to the detriment of Linux. Linux right now is the closest thing to a replacement for Windows, and anything detracting/distracting developers from it (ie. OpenSolaris) is bad. Just let OpenSolaris die.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by stan View Post
                    Given that OpenSolaris and Linux can't cross-pollinate due to Sun/Oracle's choice of an incompatible license, FOSS developer resources put into OpenSolaris are to the detriment of Linux.
                    While CDDL was probably a bad choice in the long run, there are still projects like FreeBSD which are compatible with it without trouble. And even Linux is not completely incompatible with CDDL components (though differences between GPL and CDDL make compatibility a headache). There is a port of DTrace to Linux ( ftp://crisp.dynalias.com/pub/release/website/dtrace/ ) as well as efforts to port ZFS in a compatible way ( http://wiki.github.com/behlendorf/zfs/ ).

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                    • #11
                      Alan has never stopped sending those mails. I am getting tired on some boneheaded people. Again, for the umpteen time: there are no signs that Oracle is killing Solaris or OpenSolaris. Instead, Larry has invested billions in Solaris, far more money than Linux. And he will invest even more money now. We have told you that umpteen times. But we just dont reach some of you guys.

                      "Solaris is dead". "ZFS is dead". etc. etc. It is really difficult to discuss with some people here. *Sigh*



                      EDIT: I have thought a bit on this. I doubt people are so mentally retarded that they dont understand. The only choice must be that they are FUDars and liars. That is far more probable, than some people having an IQ of 75 or lower. To have such a low IQ is very unlikely. Ergo: They understand what we write, but choose to ignore it because they are FUDers and liars.

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                      • #12
                        To moderator: Please delete my previous post. I want to edit it and rephrase it. But it is not possible to edit it. So here is my final version of my post:


                        At last people seem to understand that Solaris is not dead, though we have told you that many times. There is hope. Thanx for writing this article, OS news.

                        Larry has invested billions in Solaris as he bought Sun to get the two key assets: Java and Solaris. That is far more money than he ever invested in Linux. And he will invest even more money now. He is going almost all-in Solaris.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kebabbert View Post
                          That is far more money than he ever invested in Linux. And he will invest even more money now. He is going almost all-in Solaris.
                          Still it doesn't mean there is nothing wrong with OpenSolaris as an open source project now. Oracle's unreasonable silence caused a lot of concern. Oracle might be interested in Solaris as a commercial OS, but whether they are interested in open source project OpenSolaris - is yet to be proven.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stan View Post
                            ..... Linux right now is the closest thing to a replacement for Windows,...
                            Well this is your problem right here. I use OpenSolaris not because it's a replacement for Windows but because it's Unix. The problem I think is there is alot of people using Linux because they dislike Windows.

                            Reminds me about the quote about difference between *BSD and Linux
                            "*BSD is a unix for the PC written by Unix hackers. Linux is a unix for the PC written by PC hackers"

                            tbh from a desktop point of view it's not really "Linux versus Windows" but "X11/Gnome/KDE versus Windows" your average enduser isn't gonna want a Linux machine because of the cool features in the scheduling system of the kernel.

                            This "X11/Gnome/KDE" stack is the same on OpenSolaris anyways, heck most of the human interoperability work done on Gnome over the last 10years was done by Sun with the goal of replacing CDE in Solaris.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by shmerl View Post
                              Oracle might be interested in Solaris as a commercial OS, but whether they are interested in open source project OpenSolaris - is yet to be proven.
                              That I agree with you. There has never been any doubt about Solaris. Even though FUDers say "so the OpenSolaris board maybe will resign? That means Solaris is dead". No, Solaris is not dead, and will not die.

                              IBM AIX on the other hand, IBM has officially said that AIX will be phased out in favour of Linux. IBM will kill AIX and bet on Linux in the future (when Linux has matured enough). This is outspoken and official. AIX development is slowing down. So, AIX will die. There are no plans to kill off Solaris.

                              On the other hand, OpenSolaris will be forked off and polished and released as next gen Solaris 11. There are suspicions Solaris 11 will be announced on the big Oracle event this autumn. That all resources are redirected to work on Solaris 11 instead of OpenSolaris distro.

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