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  • Oracle Still To Make OpenSolaris Changes

    Phoronix: Oracle Still To Make OpenSolaris Changes

    Since Oracle finished its acquisition of Sun Microsystems, there have been many changes to the open-source projects that were once supported under Sun now being discontinued by Oracle and significant changes being made to the remaining open-source products. One of the open-source projects that Oracle hasn't been too open about their intentions with has been OpenSolaris...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODAwNg

  • #2
    Somebody's going to try to push for a fork if OpenSolaris is left to rot...

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    • #3
      Personally, I am more concerned about VirtualBox

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      • #4
        Stagnation

        Originally posted by King InuYasha View Post
        Somebody's going to try to push for a fork if OpenSolaris is left to rot...
        OpenSolaris really needs to change to a 6 month release schedule. That is why Ubuntu gets all the attention, release after release are pounded out on schedule. Personally, any longer than 6 months and stuff starts to stagnate.

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        • #5
          I wonder if this will entail moving beyond GCC3.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by gsacks View Post
            Personally, I am more concerned about VirtualBox
            Agreed. I haven't used OpenSolaris, but I use Solaris 10 on my work machine every day. It's fine, but nothing special. Linux works fine as an alternative for me on the machines I'm able to control for myself.

            VirtualBox is much more important to me, as it gives me a free, open, and common platform for all of my virtualization needs on Linux, Windows, and Mac OS. Without it, I'd either need to hope for Wine (or its alternatives) to always work, or I'd end up shelling out cash for multiple VMWare licenses (one for each host machine/OS combination).

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            • #7
              I'm currently running OpenSolaris b133 (released at the weekend) on my laptop. 2010.03 is to be based off b134 as far as I know. To put this in context 2009.06 is based on build 111b. Usually there is a two week window between Build releases, so they should be able to ship 2010.03 within March.

              As for the Oracle page this is for people who get paid OpenSolaris support. Never been an issue for me as (a) I don't run it in production (b) I track the dev repo (think Rawhide in Redhat parlance)

              To check what's changed ye can always look at the "Flag days" page which details changes that have gone into Builds. So just a matter of looking at the builds since 111 (2009.06).
              http://static.opensolaris.org/on/flagdays/

              Likewise for the x11 consolidation:
              http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/...win/changelogs

              Some of the nice things to have gone in include:
              ZFS Deduplication
              zpool split (split your "raid1" zpool into two seperate pools)
              Gnome 2.28
              X.org 7.5
              GEM support for Intel driver
              Boomer -- new sound architecture based on OSS v4
              ISCSI improvements including boot support
              Fibre Channel Target for Comstar (build your own FC SAN)
              More network/audio drivers
              Virtual Terminal support (hey it's a big thing for Solaris)
              Perl 5.10
              Xen 3.4 (xVM)
              Using ksh93 to produce a busybox equivalent
              ls modernisation (solaris ls now supports --color etc.)

              The other page I tend to keep an eye on is the ARC case page. For example here are all the ARC cases for 2010/2009 so far along with reference material.
              http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/year/2010.html
              http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/year/2009.html

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              • #8
                thanks, Dubhthach

                Nothing to add expect maybe that os thrives for a ~~8 Month release schedule afaik. The blocker bugs in defect.os.o may be of interest to some, too.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LinuxID10T View Post
                  OpenSolaris really needs to change to a 6 month release schedule. That is why Ubuntu gets all the attention, release after release are pounded out on schedule. Personally, any longer than 6 months and stuff starts to stagnate.
                  I dont understand what you mean? Could you clarify?

                  OpenSolaris builds are released every two weeks. Every 6 months, the current OpenSolaris build is tested and then released as "2008.11" or "2009.06" or "2010.03", etc. Maybe you didnt knew that?

                  And I doubt someone knowledgable would say that OpenSolaris development stagnates. The development is extremely rapid: Crossbow, ZFS deduplication, Comstar, etc

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                  • #10
                    Not sure correct things are being put together here

                    I actually doubt end of SXCE is related to Oracle. To me the reasons seems to be technical in nature: <http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/...+on/ON+IPS+FAQ>. Once that happens SXCE is impossible as some critical packages are no longer available in the correct format for that.

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                    • #11
                      Clearification

                      Originally posted by kebabbert View Post
                      I dont understand what you mean? Could you clarify?

                      OpenSolaris builds are released every two weeks. Every 6 months, the current OpenSolaris build is tested and then released as "2008.11" or "2009.06" or "2010.03", etc. Maybe you didnt knew that?

                      And I doubt someone knowledgable would say that OpenSolaris development stagnates. The development is extremely rapid: Crossbow, ZFS deduplication, Comstar, etc
                      It is not a six month release cycle, it is an eight month one, and is a month over at that. The problem with the eight month release cycle is that major packages, such as Firefox, are one or two releases behind. Stagnation. It also lands at a different time of year each release. Distributions that are released with shorter release cycles get more attention. Plus, I am talking about actual releases not dev builds.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LinuxID10T View Post
                        It is not a six month release cycle, it is an eight month one, and is a month over at that. The problem with the eight month release cycle is that major packages, such as Firefox, are one or two releases behind. Stagnation. It also lands at a different time of year each release. Distributions that are released with shorter release cycles get more attention. Plus, I am talking about actual releases not dev builds.
                        Well, officially, the target is 6 month release cycle. Sun did slip on it once, but that was because Soalris 10 was also released, so Sun prioritized S10, which is understandable.

                        Anyway, I dont see the point of making fuss if the release cycle slips once or twice. I know there are lots of people saying that OpenSolaris adds more cool features faster, than other OSes. I doubt they think development has stagnated. But you are free to disagree.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kebabbert View Post
                          And I doubt someone knowledgable would say that OpenSolaris development stagnates. The development is extremely rapid: Crossbow, ZFS deduplication, Comstar, etc
                          This says nothing if development is rapid or not.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                            This says nothing if development is rapid or not.
                            No? I dont agree. If OpenSolaris adds much more cool features such as ZFS, DTrace, Crossbow, SMF, etc etc than other OSes, then at least I would say that development is rapid. I doubt anyone would say that development of for instance, ZFS for OpenSolaris is "stagnated". Just recently ZFS allows Deduplication on OpenSolaris. There are lots of other cool features added very fast, much more faster than other OSes. That is not "stagnation", just because one release slipped a couple of months? But you are free to disagree.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kebabbert View Post
                              No? I dont agree. If OpenSolaris adds much more cool features such as ZFS, DTrace, Crossbow, SMF, etc etc than other OSes, then at least I would say that development is rapid.
                              Some of this exist since years. OpenSolaris only took them from Solaris. We've got probably different point of view when comes to rapid development.

                              I doubt anyone would say that development of for instance, ZFS for OpenSolaris is "stagnated". Just recently ZFS allows Deduplication on OpenSolaris.
                              Probably nobody claims ZFS is in stagnancy and I doubt if it can be said it "stagnated".

                              There are lots of other cool features added very fast, much more faster than other OSes. That is not "stagnation", just because one release slipped a couple of months? But you are free to disagree.
                              I'm not talking about copying features from Solaris, but about developing new. Of course if some release slipped a couple of months it probably doesn't mean it's because of stagnation. I'm not even saying OpenSolaris is in stagnation, but I wonder if it's being developed so rapidly.

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