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  • A Weekend Look At OpenSolaris 2009.06

    Phoronix: A Weekend Look At OpenSolaris 2009.06

    It has been a while since last talking about OpenSolaris 2009.06 at Phoronix, but this weekend we decided to fire up Sun's latest build based upon the SXCE 111a build available from Genunix. Enclosed are a few screenshots and other information about this Sun community operating system that should be officially released within a month.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=13778

  • #2
    I don't know why, but OpenSolaris runs horribly slow in VirtualBox.
    Does anyone know anything about this?

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    • #3
      Whats the point of this distro even? Is there any novelty at all to run a solaris kernel these days?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by cruiseoveride View Post
        Whats the point of this distro even? Is there any novelty at all to run a solaris kernel these days?
        I believe there are many who are quite invested in the Solaris platform, and Sun has created technologies to allow building and maintaining robust infrastructure.

        Besides, there wouldn't a distribution if there wasn't a community around it no? The great thing about FOSS is the ability to port any portion of a complete stack of software creates a low barrier of entry for different ideas of what makes up a distribution.

        [That can also be viewed as a weakness, but that will likely improve as we decide which parts of this wave of custom everything is actually worthwhile]

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        • #5
          Mentioning the PulseAudio integration as missing in a post about OpenSolaris...which has never had anything to do with PulseAudio...heh

          Anyway, what phoronix failed to mention, is that 2009.06 will finally have a newer gcc stack (4.3.2) [1], and I believe this is more important than having a slightly modified volume control.

          [1] The commit for it: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermai...il/013199.html

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          • #6
            Ok, it's 2 years I'm waiting that OpenSolaris supports my motherboard's gibabit ethernet card. If it doesn't this time I'm gonna say goodbye to it once for all.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
              Ok, it's 2 years I'm waiting that OpenSolaris supports my motherboard's gibabit ethernet card. If it doesn't this time I'm gonna say goodbye to it once for all.
              What ethernet card is it ? (scanpci data if possible)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Craig73 View Post
                Besides, there wouldn't a distribution if there wasn't a community around it no? The great thing about FOSS is the ability to port any portion of a complete stack of software creates a low barrier of entry for different ideas of what makes up a distribution.
                Forking stuff is, unfortunately, largely a matter of ego (compiz/beryl is just one prime example of this overrated idiocy). If the egos of some people in the open source world were smaller, we'd all be benefiting from it.

                In other words -- no one needs OpenSolaris.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by susikala View Post
                  Forking stuff is, unfortunately, largely a matter of ego (compiz/beryl is just one prime example of this overrated idiocy).
                  And could you enlighten us all what does forking have to do with OpenSolaris, which can't use any Linux kernel stuff anyway as the licenses are not compatible. Moreover, the kernels are way too different for such a port to make sense anyway.

                  Originally posted by susikala View Post
                  In other words -- no one needs OpenSolaris.
                  And if I need it and everyone else who uses it needs it, then we are all fictional and do not exist, right ?
                  Last edited by etacarinae; 05-03-2009, 07:51 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by etacarinae View Post
                    What ethernet card is it ? (scanpci data if possible)

                    I'm on Windows now. However, it should be something like NVIDIA MCP67 if I remember well.
                    Last edited by bulletxt; 05-03-2009, 08:47 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
                      I'm on Windows now. However, it should be something like NVIDIA MCP67 if I remember well.
                      The nfo driver supports it: http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/ (works on 2008.11 as well)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by etacarinae View Post
                        The nfo driver supports it: http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/ (works on 2008.11 as well)
                        That's a pain in the ass to get it to work. And I don't even know if it supports my card. It's not listed and the newer one is stated as "alpha test version". I can't accept this. It's open solaris duty to do something about considering that my card perfectly works on Windows and Linux without any hassles.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
                          That's a pain in the ass to get it to work. And I don't even know if it supports my card. It's not listed and the newer one is stated as "alpha test version". I can't accept this. It's open solaris duty to do something about considering that my card perfectly works on Windows and Linux without any hassles.
                          A pain in the ass to get it to work ?

                          Download, copy to a flashdrive, run
                          tar xvzf nfo-2.6.3.tar.gz && cd nfo-2.6.3 && pfexec make install64 && pfexec ./addrv.sh

                          If your system is 64 bit... (or use install32 if it's 32 bit...), if that's hard, then I'd say that Linux is not for you either...

                          As for alpha, if it hasn't been updated this means it has been working perfectly fine and there is simply no need to update the driver.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by etacarinae View Post
                            And could you enlighten us all what does forking have to do with OpenSolaris, which can't use any Linux kernel stuff anyway as the licenses are not compatible. Moreover, the kernels are way too different for such a port to make sense anyway.
                            Sorry, when I boot OpenSolaris, I see nothing but a stock Linux distro with GNOME. Unlike the BSDs which all have _some_ clear objective, Solaris/OpenSolaris is just a Linux copycat spawned out of Sun's ego. I really hope Oracle lets it die its due death if / when they buy Sun.

                            Or do you have any good reason to use OpenSolaris?

                            What I really don't get, this totally unimportant news gets reported here, as if anyone cared, while the latest and (great) releases of the four BSDs don't get any referral. Odd.

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                            • #15
                              @Susikala

                              I personally prefer *Solaris over BSD* (and news about Solaris) and forking is sometimes very good thing. There's a thread at lkml where some kernel devs even think about forking GCC or writing their own compiler. And about ego - OpenBSD... Sorry I have even better example - HURD.
                              Last edited by kraftman; 05-04-2009, 04:46 AM.

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