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  • Linux to Solaris Comparison Guide?

    Hi All,

    I'm looking to play around with Solaris, but am very familiar with Linux and not familiar with Solaris. Are there any guides or books out there that will help me transition to Solaris? Or would I just be better off installing it and just figuring it out?

  • #2
    Originally posted by r0d3nt View Post
    Hi All,

    I'm looking to play around with Solaris, but am very familiar with Linux and not familiar with Solaris. Are there any guides or books out there that will help me transition to Solaris? Or would I just be better off installing it and just figuring it out?
    My advice is to try out OpenSolaris 2009.06 b110, see if all devices are natively supported on your hardware, play around with boot environments after you have it installed, e.g.:
    $ pfexec beadm create test-env
    $ pfexec reboot

    Boot into test-env

    cd /.zfs && ls -l

    Try out the IPS packaging system, etc..

    If you like it and want to know more of it, either use the web resources or if you want a definitive book on the subject then "OpenSolaris Bible" is an excellent choice.

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    • #3
      If you want a nice network manager, or use bluetooth a lot, you're gonna be disappointed ...

      I'm sure they'll come, and if you can live without them (I've used solaris since 2.0 days, and am used to it) then you've got a rock hard system with lots of nice toys and features ...

      ZFS is hard to beat (I don't care what that new system that Linux is coming up with) and with improved driver support (graphics and wireless) ... It's beginning to become a half decent desktop OS

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      • #4
        I'm planning on running Solaris and OpenSolaris as VMs on VMware Server. I've already got them installed, so hardware compatibility won't be an issue. I do agree about the network manager though. OpenSolaris appears to be too forward thinking with the whole everything defaults to IP6 thing [at least from my limited testing with the built-in ping command]. It is odd because both of these OSs are familiar to me coming from a Linux background, but are ultimately very different. I'm still trying to figure out how to set the right timezones for both OSs since Solaris thinks I'm in Europe [even though I'm in West Coast US and I told it as much] and Open Solaris thinks it is 1986. I've got some research to do. I'll have to check out the OpenSolaris Bible. I'm assuming that most things related to OpenSolaris will apply to Solaris? Or would that be too easy? Any other good sites out there for Solaris resources? Command references, etc?

        Thanx!

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        • #5
          You might find the UNIX rosetta stone useful. Personally I barely know any commands no matter which of them you pick for me to wrench on so it's not much use to me.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jadrevenge View Post
            ZFS is hard to beat (I don't care what that new system that Linux is coming up with)...
            Hehe, especially for desktop where 768MB RAM is recommended minimum...

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            • #7
              I don't even have any machines left with less than 2GB RAM. What's the issue?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by joffe View Post
                I don't even have any machines left with less than 2GB RAM. What's the issue?
                So there shouldn't be any issue right?

                Here's probably explanation:

                http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=pl
                Last edited by kraftman; 03-31-2009, 02:07 PM.

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                • #9
                  Wow, wasn't looking for a flame war on ZFS, just looking for good info on how to best use Solaris, or at least put up with it from a Linux user's perspective [flame war probably to ensue from that last bit].

                  Thanx!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by r0d3nt View Post
                    Wow, wasn't looking for a flame war on ZFS, just looking for good info on how to best use Solaris, or at least put up with it from a Linux user's perspective [flame war probably to ensue from that last bit].

                    Thanx!
                    Where do you see flame? I didn't know high memory recommendation for ZFS is tabu which someone will take as flame and you asked how to best use Solaris... It's little strange... Flame war usually ensue from stupidity when someone see flame where it isn't.
                    Last edited by kraftman; 04-01-2009, 04:18 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                      Where do you see flame?
                      Maybe from your tone. I'm looking for help, not a chastising about memory requirements for ZFS [or as you put it by stating the obvious]. I probably wouldn't have even noticed the issue since I'm running both Solaris and OpenSolaris in VMs of 2GB RAM each, and not looking to do much with it but get familiar with the OS.

                      Anyone else have any other helpful advice?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                        Hehe, especially for desktop where 768MB RAM is recommended minimum...
                        I've run a Solaris 10 box with ZFS root quite happily in 256Mb ram ...

                        Yeah it wasn't a file server, only a VPN box, but performance seemed good to me

                        Don't get me wrong here, I'm a fan of Linux, it's a much better frontend atm than Solaris ... I just happen to program on Solaris, and all our servers run it.

                        I've managed to get it to install in so many systems over the years, I can do it with one hand behind my back ... but if you're new to it, and you like graphical interfaces/configuration (and not connecting as root to set up network interfaces, yes I know you can do this with user_prof now) ... It's quite a change from systems that "Just Work" (tm)

                        My boss has always worked on Solaris, but moved "temporarily" to Ubuntu when we couldn't install Solaris on a specific Dell Laptop ... I managed to get OpenSolaris on the latest dell laptop that came in ... Accelerated graphics, all network cards working, bluetooth in the kernel ... but he hasn't moved on to it ... I think He'd miss the toys.

                        As i said I've got Solaris 10 on my laptop, and the network setup I've got is a hacked together set of scripts that do all the connections as a normal user (including dhclient'ing to get the answers to set up resolv.conf, force rescanning for wireless networks, and interface cleanup/destroy) ... in a nice little terminal menu, but i had to make the scripts myself.

                        I know ... I'm Rambling again.

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                        • #13
                          This is the type of response I've been looking for! Please ramble on! How did you get your initial exposure to Solaris?

                          Here's the irony, I'm a Linux user who started out in the Mac OS 7 days [mid 90s], who jumped into Linux when I found out that Apple was buying NeXT in '97. I actually prefer the command line more than the graphical environment at times [see the irony now?]. I'll happily delve into /etc/sysconfig and modify the network scripts via vi to change IP addresses, so the graphical front end is nice and all, but I can get by without it. I just want to know what is what compared to Linux and Solaris. Are there run levels? What are the comparable directories in Solaris as compared to Linux? Does /etc in Solaris still point to configuration files, etc? These are the things that I would like to know.

                          So please ramble on!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by r0d3nt View Post
                            Maybe from your tone. I'm looking for help, not a chastising about memory requirements for ZFS [or as you put it by stating the obvious]. I probably wouldn't have even noticed the issue since I'm running both Solaris and OpenSolaris in VMs of 2GB RAM each, and not looking to do much with it but get familiar with the OS.

                            Anyone else have any other helpful advice?
                            I don't know if there's any issue, it's just recommended. As Jadrevenge said it works fine with 256MB RAM. Well, if you run Solaris you should know if there are run levels etc. I don't know if you're looking for something like this, but:

                            http://doc.vic.computerbank.org.au/t...torystructure/
                            http://www.debianadmin.com/linux-dir...-overview.html

                            http://sharetab.com/tag/solaris-directory-structure/

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for the links. I do understand the Linux directory structure, I just was looking for a comparison to see what was the same, different, or not related. The last link you provided is great. I'm going to look at it more when I have a chance...

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