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  • #46
    Thanks for the replies. After finding the FAQ on ASUS' site, it seems that they changed the name of Express Gate to Express Gate SSD and Express Gate Lite to Express Gate. Very confusing indeed. I'll consider running it off a USB stick, if only for the reason that I had my mind set on this nifty feature.

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    • #47
      Well using it from USB stick seems a better idea than using the internal SSD, because you can resize the DVMUSB partition if needed to add more custom apps. Thats impossible for the SSD and testing is much more complicated too - you have to create DFI files all the time.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Kano View Post
        Well using it from USB stick seems a better idea than using the internal SSD, because you can resize the DVMUSB partition if needed to add more custom apps. Thats impossible for the SSD and testing is much more complicated too - you have to create DFI files all the time.
        True. My critique of having a USB stick permanently attached to the computer is one of sheer vanity. Also, allowing your BIOS to start off removable devices might not be for those that are security-minded. But then it seems that activating Express Gate on at least my MB could be just about as bad - it suffices that a USB stick (or any connected mass storage device I suspect) has the SplashTop files on it, and it will allow you to boot off that device. Does anyone know if the SplashTop files have a digital signature that is checked by the BIOS-resident parts of Express Gate?

        I completely failed to make a bootable USB stick with Kano's lilo script, btw, and that was on two different USB sticks that have both had Ubuntu and Gentoo LiveCD images and installed systems booted off them. So it was a little bit by chance that I discovered that with an Express Gate (Lite) MB, it is enough just to copy the files from the Express Gate image file to the stick. I guess then that it is a reasonably safe bet that if you made a micro partition (first partition?) on your harddrive (NTFS or FAT, I suppose), and just copied the files into that, you could boot your system from that. Anyone tried that?

        One last thing, and I realize I have sadly drifted off topic - the list of keyboard layouts in the Express Gate that I downloaded (1.2.4.0 I think, from the ASUS FTP site) was rather short (US/UK/French/Japanese and a few others). I miss my Swedish letters... Any remedy for this?

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        • #49
          You would not need a bootloader on the stick when you can start it via BIOS - it would find it too when you select it.The international support is pretty bad, basically english + chinese is tested only - german is pretty bad supported as well. If it does not boot just try different usb ports, it is usally not the stick, but only a few ports work.
          Last edited by Kano; 08-18-2008, 06:36 AM.

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          • #50
            Like I said previously, I wanted to try installing SplashTop on a small HD partition using Linux, and getting my Express Gate (Lite) MB to boot into that (without LILO or GRUB, as you can do with a USB stick + Express Gate Lite MB). Using parts of Kano's script, I simply copied the files from the mounted Express Gate SSD image file to a 1.0GB (overkill, I know) FAT16 partition that I made at the beginning of the HD. This was enough to make the Express Gate BIOS bootloader believe that I had SplashTop installed (showing the splash screen where you can choose to boot into the OS or into SplashTop), but it froze when it tried to boot into SplashTop. Any ideas?

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            • #51
              That will _not_ work because it checks for USB only that way. You will find a script for hd install onto a fat32 partition here now:

              http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11653
              Last edited by Kano; 08-19-2008, 07:44 AM.

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