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  • #11
    Why is the LED freaking out like that??!?!?
    Hardware specs seem way short for the price.
    Dual-core 1.4 GHz identifies the chip as a figment of someone's imagination. The only in-production qualcomm 1.4's are quad-core cortex-A5's w/adreno203. Basically CRAP.
    -- either that, or they don't know what they're doing and had to underclock it for stability.

    For less than the same price... nexus 5 is better in every way.... so SOURCE CODE??!?!?!

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    • #12
      Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
      Why is the LED freaking out like that??!?!?
      Hardware specs seem way short for the price.
      Dual-core 1.4 GHz identifies the chip as a figment of someone's imagination. The only in-production qualcomm 1.4's are quad-core cortex-A5's w/adreno203. Basically CRAP.
      -- either that, or they don't know what they're doing and had to underclock it for stability.

      For less than the same price... nexus 5 is better in every way.... so SOURCE CODE??!?!?!
      The hardware was old even at the date of launching the news of it, and when the pre-order period started. It's more about the Maemo/MeeGo/Mer community living on, not the hardware. But I do agree that I would be lying if I said I didn't wan't a faster processor or more RAM. It's just not the top priority. The N9 specs weren't really very good either.

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      • #13
        So is it wayland? According to this it is:
        https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Porting/Harmattan

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        • #14
          wayland and systemd hits the sweet spot for me, ofc add the fact it uses c++11 as native backend with Qt5 + inlined QML plus adding the fact most of your linux native apps in Qt5/systemd just need a recompile to run without a hitch[beyond UX ofc] in jolla[SDK for now ofc]. this phone is like developer's porn

          about the hardware, yes is probably weak for an android device with java but with C++ is a different monster overall, i tell from my experience with odroid U2[exynos 4] and some projects i migrated from Android to Qt5/Neon/gcc-4.8/openmp, in some cases i got procedures speedups upto 120x compared to the galvick equivalent and reduced memory usage up to 5x without any special ASM voodoo

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          • #15
            Does the Sailfish OS have a terminal app and does it run a Bash shell? Does it also have the usual command line tools found on typical desktop Linux distros or can they be installed easily? I'd like to automate stuff using simple Bash scripts. Maybe run some via a cron job.

            Also, is there a mechanism to detect events and run specfied scripts? I don't think polling for state changes would be good for battery life. For example, detect when it's inserted into a car dock (if it has one) then turn on Bluetooth and GPS. When it detects that it is connected to my specific car through Bluetooth (maybe using a MAC address or name) then open the music streaming app and set some volume levels. When the Bluetooth connection is closed then close the music app and restore the default volume levels. When undocked, turn off Bluetooth and GPS.

            Originally posted by bundyo View Post
            Originally posted by [Knuckles] View Post
            I really hope this is the true sucessor to the Nokia N900 / N9. But I miss the qwerty keyboard :|
            Here's a hope someone will make a keyboard other half
            That'd be great. You'd think part of the target audience of the Sailfish OS would be former/current N900 users who probably made full use of the slideout keyboard.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by guido12 View Post
              Does the Sailfish OS have a terminal app and does it run a Bash shell? Does it also have the usual command line tools found on typical desktop Linux distros or can they be installed easily? I'd like to automate stuff using simple Bash scripts. Maybe run some via a cron job.

              Also, is there a mechanism to detect events and run specfied scripts? I don't think polling for state changes would be good for battery life. For example, detect when it's inserted into a car dock (if it has one) then turn on Bluetooth and GPS. When it detects that it is connected to my specific car through Bluetooth (maybe using a MAC address or name) then open the music streaming app and set some volume levels. When the Bluetooth connection is closed then close the music app and restore the default volume levels. When undocked, turn off Bluetooth and GPS
              1.) well i haven't checked since i stop using them after systemd, verify their dev docs
              1.a) systemd handle automation and cron like operations too [check systemd site for more info]
              1.b) systemd interfaces are all available through C API[some] or Dbus API
              2.) well that is what systemd/udev/kernel do

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              • #17
                In what level is it capable of running android apps?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Apopas View Post
                  In what level is it capable of running android apps?
                  It uses Myriad's Alien Dalvik to run applications at native speeds. It's essentially the Android runtime, but portable to a variety of devices- I think Jolla is actually the first phone to ship with it. Also, Android apps are used like any other app. The store they're getting these apps from may be separate from the native app store, but the intention is to give Android apps a first-class experience. I'm still unsure of whether you can simply load an .APK.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Post
                    1.) well i haven't checked since i stop using them after systemd, verify their dev docs
                    1.a) systemd handle automation and cron like operations too [check systemd site for more info]
                    1.b) systemd interfaces are all available through C API[some] or Dbus API
                    2.) well that is what systemd/udev/kernel do
                    Thanks for the info!

                    Does anyone know where I can find a list of the command line tools available in the Sailfish OS? I'm sure it's pretty obvious that I'm not a Linux expert. I'd rather not have to compile the tools I want from source unless it's just make && make install .

                    As for systemd, I need to lookup how to trigger on relavant phone events and run Bash scripts. Time to Google a little bit to see how easy (for me) it is.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by scionicspectre View Post
                      It uses Myriad's Alien Dalvik to run applications at native speeds. It's essentially the Android runtime, but portable to a variety of devices- I think Jolla is actually the first phone to ship with it. Also, Android apps are used like any other app. The store they're getting these apps from may be separate from the native app store, but the intention is to give Android apps a first-class experience. I'm still unsure of whether you can simply load an .APK.
                      The only Android app I'd probably want to load would be the Google Maps/Navigation app. Since it's a Google Android core app, I think I'd have to unofficially install it. Maybe the included map/navigation app would be good enough.The only other apps I can't live without would be a robust web browser and an IMAP capable email client which already seem to be included/available.

                      The only other apps I use are S3Anywhere Pro, MX Player Pro and an SSH client. I've started using AWS-CLI (https://github.com/aws/aws-cli) on my notebook which will hopefully run on Sailfish OS and MPlayer or one of its forks will probably be better than MX Player. I'm assuming SSH is built-in.

                      Does Sailfish OS have built-in tethering capabilites (USB, WiFi and Bluetooth)? I assume tethering using Bluetooth 3.0+HS (24 Mbps transfer speed) isn't available assuming it actually uses less power than WiFi tethering.

                      Well, there are a lots of stuff I need to Google about Sailfish OS. I hope it meets my needs.

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