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  • #31
    SuperOpen

    Linux (Ubuntu included) needed a SuperPhone with all hardware, firmware and software specifactions completely open. Even if cost over a thousand Euros.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by onicsis View Post
      Linux (Ubuntu included) needed a SuperPhone with all hardware, firmware and software specifactions completely open. Even if cost over a thousand Euros.
      You mean the Jolla phone, right?

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      • #33
        Jolla's not like that, part closed source sw, certainly not open fw or hw design. OpenMoko is closer.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
          You mean the Jolla phone, right?
          While I appreciate the efforts of Jolla in terms of open core, open stack, and upstream contributions, the currently proposed spec are definitely not some of a "superphone".

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          • #35
            What do you need a high-end CPU for in a phone anyway?

            It's like putting a V12 and tank treads on a volkswagen golf...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by dee. View Post
              What do you need a high-end CPU for in a phone anyway?

              It's like putting a V12 and tank treads on a volkswagen golf...
              To run Unity? xD

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              • #37
                Originally posted by curaga View Post
                Jolla's not like that, part closed source sw, certainly not open fw or hw design. OpenMoko is closer.
                The only layer that isn't open is the top-most layer, the UX, but even there they've already confirmed it'll be open.
                The only reason they won't just yet, is because of concern that others will grab that final layer, & offer their own device based on the complete stack.
                After their 1st device is out, they will then open that final layer, this is what they have already said, quite clearly.
                Of course, it remains to be seen....

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by dee. View Post
                  What do you need a high-end CPU for in a phone anyway?

                  It's like putting a V12 and tank treads on a volkswagen golf...
                  To get rid of your laptop and your desktop.
                  Only have a phone.
                  Take it wherever you go, and dock it to a keyboard, mouse and screen and it should be powerful enough to do real work.

                  I look forward to 8-core 64-bit phones with 8 GB RAM and 512 GB SSD.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                    To get rid of your laptop and your desktop.
                    Only have a phone.
                    Take it wherever you go, and dock it to a keyboard, mouse and screen and it should be powerful enough to do real work.
                    ,

                    While it may seem like a neat idea on paper, IMO there are a few practical hurdles that come to mind that render the "phone as your desktop/laptop" concept of the Ubuntu Edge impractical:
                    • What happens if you loose your phone or it develops a fault?
                    • If you still need a keyboard etc. to use it as a desktop, why not go the full hog and have a full desktop system?
                    • What happens if you receive a call when the phone is being used as a desktop and you don't want to use a loudspeaker?

                    Motorola tried the similar idea with the Atrix phone and it's netbook-like dock, it wasn't a success.

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                    • #40
                      Indeed, if you need to dock it, you might as well have the dock do all the work, i.e. use an all-in-one/laptop.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by danielnez1 View Post
                        ,

                        While it may seem like a neat idea on paper, IMO there are a few practical hurdles that come to mind that render the "phone as your desktop/laptop" concept of the Ubuntu Edge impractical:
                        • What happens if you loose your phone or it develops a fault?
                        • If you still need a keyboard etc. to use it as a desktop, why not go the full hog and have a full desktop system?
                        • What happens if you receive a call when the phone is being used as a desktop and you don't want to use a loudspeaker?

                        Motorola tried the similar idea with the Atrix phone and it's netbook-like dock, it wasn't a success.
                        1. Same thing as happens if you lose your laptop or it develops a fault. Always keep backups. File police report. Use find-my-phone services.

                        2. You dock it in your keyboard/mouse/screen at home, then you goto work and dock it in there, then goto friends house and dock it in there. Just bring the phone, not the other stuff. Borrow the keyboard/mouse at work or friends place.

                        3. Then you use a Bluetooth headset.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                          2. You dock it in your keyboard/mouse/screen at home, then you goto work and dock it in there, then goto friends house and dock it in there. Just bring the phone, not the other stuff. Borrow the keyboard/mouse at work or friends place.
                          Your phone will clearly have several standard USB ports, a VGA port, a PS/2 port, etc.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                            Your phone will clearly have several standard USB ports, a VGA port, a PS/2 port, etc.
                            Bluetooth keyboard, Bluetooth mouse and WiDi/Miracast/WirelessHD/WHDI display.
                            So the phone needs absolutely no physical ports at all, it does it all wireless!

                            Or you place your phone in a dock, and the dock have two USB ports and a HDMI port.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                              Bluetooth keyboard, Bluetooth mouse and WiDi/Miracast/WirelessHD/WHDI display.
                              So the phone needs absolutely no physical ports at all, it does it all wireless!

                              Or you place your phone in a dock, and the dock have two USB ports and a HDMI port.
                              Thus you either can no longer borrow the peripherals from others, making your phone usable as a desktop only in your home (so you're still better off with an all-in-one), or have to lug a dock around (which is just the same thing as lugging a laptop).

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                                1. Same thing as happens if you lose your laptop or it develops a fault. Always keep backups. File police report. Use find-my-phone services.
                                Even if you do all of those things, for a certain amount of time you are still without your phone and have no redundancy.

                                Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                                2. You dock it in your keyboard/mouse/screen at home, then you goto work and dock it in there, then goto friends house and dock it in there. Just bring the phone, not the other stuff. Borrow the keyboard/mouse at work or friends place.
                                What about if you and a bunch of your friends want to play a Multiplayer game?

                                Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                                3. Then you use a Bluetooth headset.
                                Yay, more accessories to buy!

                                For all in intents and purposes, I don't think the concept will work, others have tried similar things and failed (i.e. Motorola). The only was I could see it working is if the device could magically transform from a Phone to a full size Laptop etc.

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