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  • #46
    Originally posted by Serge View Post
    It is very desireable to have a phone that is capable of handling desktop computing workloads. Because, you know, that's the point where you plug your phone into a dock with a 21" display and full-sized keyboard, and throw away the desktop or laptop you were using and never look back.
    One thing I always wonder is, if you have a dock, that already has a big screen + keyboard, then why not put a cpu in that dock? Why require a phone? You can already attach a phone to a computer via usb or bluetooth, effectively giving you every advantage you could possibly get from docking... so: why would we want to dock?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by chithanh View Post
      You can accelerate image manipulation with GPGPU or similar, but not all manipulations are equally suited for that.
      Video transcode is possible with dedicated hardware, but postprocessing is mostly not. I admit that it can be done in GPU shaders to some degree. Audio postprocessing on the GPU is at least not widespread yet I think
      You typically have more applications open on a desktop than on a mobile phone, so more cores (and indeed more RAM too) help.
      If you want to capture a video and automatically send the YouTube link to all of your friends which appear therein, then individual cores can start looking for recognizable faces at every I-frame.
      Do you know that you do not need multiple CPU cores for normal multitasking? :-) You can just as well open/load 10 browser tabs on 1cpu as on 10cpus. What's more, the tasks are prioritized so the active tab isn't slowed down by the other ones that are opened in the background. And even more... any modern OS uses ~100 processes constantly, but somehow you don't need to have a 100 core cpu, all this is already done and works cool.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
        I, for one, don't see plugging a phone into a dock ever replacing my desktop. After all, it takes away the interesting challenge of building a system yourself.
        Not only that, customizing a hardware to your needs. It's also that with a real desktop you can still exchange, upgrade, repair things much better than in a tiny all SMD-soldered multilayer-PCB cellphone. All the modularity is missing.
        For a cellphone I think most important is battery runtime, cause what's all the speed worth if it ends after half an hour?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by dee. View Post
          One thing I always wonder is, if you have a dock, that already has a big screen + keyboard, then why not put a cpu in that dock? Why require a phone? You can already attach a phone to a computer via usb or bluetooth, effectively giving you every advantage you could possibly get from docking... so: why would we want to dock?
          One word: data.

          But to be honest if you want to take your data with you, there are better options. Buy a 2.5" SSD; it's lighter than a phone and there are fast-swap bays to go in a 3.5" floppy bay and you can also put a hard drive into a thinkpad ultrabay with minimal fuss.

          Back on topic, if these are the guys behind the awesome N9 UI, I can't wait to see what this phone's like to use. Plus Android app support is cool (though that was promised for the N9 IIRC).

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Armin View Post
            LOL ubuntu and super computers? I haven't seen Ubuntu anywhere near a super-computer...
            i did and it is doing very well (of course configured for it). why not? it is as good as any other linux for it. you have to configure them all. some distros already bring cluster software etc. on default install. but where is the problem to install it later?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Cyber Killer View Post
              Do you know that you do not need multiple CPU cores for normal multitasking? :-) You can just as well open/load 10 browser tabs on 1cpu as on 10cpus. What's more, the tasks are prioritized so the active tab isn't slowed down by the other ones that are opened in the background. And even more... any modern OS uses ~100 processes constantly, but somehow you don't need to have a 100 core cpu, all this is already done and works cool.
              You can, but with multiple applications (or a single multithreaded one) you'll get better performance with more cores if those cores are as powerful, or nearly so, as the single one. He was responding to erendorn, who said "Adding cores after the first 2 is most useless" - I'd also disagree with that; modern phones/tablets have enough simultaneously-running programs, background processes etc that performance should scale well to at least 4 cores - taking everything off the core that the foreground process is using will speed it up because it'll be able to use that core continuously.

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              • #52
                Seems like we will be able to install any OS that supports the hardware on Jolla device.
                https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/346536550026313728
                So for those that would like to try Firefox OS or Ubuntu phone Jolla might work.

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                • #53
                  The Fairphone makers claim that any OS can be installed on their Fairphone too, with the reasoning that it is rootable. But I am wondering mustn't be the bootloader open so that a different OS than Android can be installed. Or does rootable already imply that the bootloader is open?

                  just looked on their twitter if there is any interesting news about multiple OS's on the Fairphone: they hiring a "Open source junkie"
                  https://www.facebook.com/Fairphone/p...17888981599340
                  Last edited by Fenrin; 06-22-2013, 12:12 PM.

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