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  • #16
    Originally posted by [Knuckles] View Post
    Give me qwerty and I'll pay whatever you want for it!
    This.

    If there's no keyboard I still imagine there'll be third-party hardcase covers with bluetooth keyboards eventually, given the kind of userbase this phone attracts.

    If not, then I'd wager/hope that someone smarter than me will cook up something like a Jolla Project N955.

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    • #17
      There will be a livestream with the presentation of the Jolla Phone in about 20 minutes (16:30 GMT):
      http://jolla.streamforce1.tv/

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      • #18
        If it performs well and has a robust platform, and you can read the screen without it hurting or looking bad, who cares about the specs? Mer is not Android, it doesn't need a quad-core to run efficiently.

        Honestly, as cool as Ubuntu's convergence story is, and as much as I enjoy the idea of one device for everything, I don't think I can avoid buying this phone. The interface just feels right to me- it's about me, it's for me, it's community-oriented. I really do hope they open their whole stack, including the Silica components for the interface, because it would be a shame if that held them back from success in the broader community.

        Here's hoping it doesn't share the same fate as the N9, which itself is still an excellent phone with a modern experience even compared to recent innovations. These are exciting times for consumers, without a doubt.

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        • #19
          I like it. People who expect small company like that to be able to match or exceed Samsung, LG or Nokia don't have a clue.

          Things like this are not about ridiculously blown HW, but end result of HW+SW.

          I like their quest for the essence and care about performance, so that they don't use virtual machine as their primary offer.

          So user should be able to exploit C++ with Qt to the max. I just wish something with more basic environment, like C and gtk+, with less runtime fat and more close-to-the-metal approach.

          It would be nice if we could see detailed technical data. Marketing phrase "Phone with two halves" doesn't tell me much and video suggests that "other half" might be just a estetical cover...

          OTOH, thing might have high-bandwidth interface for 3-rd party "other half" ( like measurement equipment etc)...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by scionicspectre View Post
            Here's hoping it doesn't share the same fate as the N9, which itself is still an excellent phone with a modern experience even compared to recent innovations. These are exciting times for consumers, without a doubt.
            That's the whole point of Jolla. An N9 with more openness, features and production.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Fenrin View Post
              There will be a livestream with the presentation of the Jolla Phone in about 20 minutes (16:30 GMT):
              http://jolla.streamforce1.tv/
              You forgot an hour

              http://www.page-1.com/GMT/

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Nille_kungen View Post
                You forgot an hour
                oh right, thanks!

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                • #23
                  Well, the stream was kind of underwhelming. The only thing they said is that the cover is easily changeable, and from what I gathered, can have something like a built-in SD card in it, so that others could make "stylised" covers that also come with some data. But it sounds like a gimmick that nobody will make use of...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by scionicspectre View Post
                    If it performs well and has a robust platform, and you can read the screen without it hurting or looking bad, who cares about the specs? Mer is not Android, it doesn't need a quad-core to run efficiently.
                    Neither does Android. Stop the trolling. Besides, Mer only provides a foundation of low-level services. The critical part is Jolla's proprietary UI/app framework and it's still unclear whether it'll perform well.

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                    • #25
                      This video is more informative, showing more in-depth how their UI works:
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxv7iXwIgno

                      Originally posted by Honton View Post
                      Openness without open source?
                      With. It's the core concept behind the whole device.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                        No, nobody ever said their UI was closed-source. It's just a wild rumour. The company hasn't said one way or the other.

                        It's interesting, but of course I was hoping to see the actual specs. If I get fed up with what I have, I might give it a shot, although for a phone it is quite pricey. Pretty much at the same price as a Samsung Galaxy S III.
                        The wikipedia page of sailfish os claims that the entire OS will be released as open source, but the only source for that claim is an ambiguous twitter post...

                        Citogenesis at work, I think.

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                        • #27
                          Some more mildly interesting videos on the topic:
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU7k7I_sj0c
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJdr7o2Cuvg

                          Originally posted by dee. View Post
                          The wikipedia page of sailfish os claims that the entire OS will be released as open source, but the only source for that claim is an ambiguous twitter post...

                          Citogenesis at work, I think.
                          What do you mean? Sure, it's ambiguous, but it's all we have so far. Also, in case you're wondering, the blame goes back to November 2012 for the text as well as the link. Perhaps it's older than you think.

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                          • #28
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxv7iXwIgno

                            cool

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by panda84 View Post
                              Don't know how much open is Firefox OS though.
                              Well, Firefox OS is completely open and now that I see what Jolla has to offer, I'm happy that I got myself a Peak with Firefox OS. Granted, the OS is still beta, but it mostly does what I need, and since it is completely open, and the carriers seem to want it, I'm quite confident that it will improve over time and not die (like Maemo and MeeGo did).

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                              • #30
                                From what I understood of SailfishOS; the Mer core is completely free, and is a proper Linux setup (not based around a non-libc library) and the UI is Jolla exclusive, but the MeeGo UI is open on it (mind you that's different than Harmattan MeeGo's swipe-ui).

                                I could be wrong on this, and Jolla could open up Sailfish's UI. But there are git repositories that people can look at to see how all the development is going.

                                Earlier someone mentioned C and Gtk+. I think you can still write software with that, but Qt will obviously be quicker and have less memory requirements, since the UI runs in that and Qt will already be in memory.

                                leech

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