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  • #16
    Originally posted by mendieta View Post
    I HATE how closed chromebooks are: I don't mind for Google to make a chromebook basically an appliance, but they should definitely allow for an easy way to dual boot, and/or boot from USB/flashcard/external drive

    Are you kidding? It's completely open.

    Someone even documented on Google+ right around the time that systems were introduced how to get a regular distro onto a Chromebook by booting from SD cards:

    https://plus.google.com/109993695638...ts/b2fazijJppZ

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    • #17
      PLEASE a XEN VGA passthorugh way, and PUBLIC DRIVERS

      Originally posted by mendieta View Post
      Besides performance, it would be great to give some installation instructions, and indication of what works and what not. It is very popular in Amazon, where the reviews are quite positive, but it seems like the version of flash in Chrome OS doesn't work with many popular sites.

      I HATE how closed chromebooks are: I don't mind for Google to make a chromebook basically an appliance, but they should definitely allow for an easy way to dual boot, and/or boot from USB/flashcard/external drive
      I agree and would add ...

      I hate ARM's SECRET DRIVERS. the GPL must ask for, at least PUBLIC DRIVERS if you want to use Linux, of course better if they are open source.

      We are not able to install whatever OS we like at ARM devices because there are not PUBLIC DRIVERS for them

      I want FREEDOM for ARM devices that are using Linux kernel to make closer devices than Wintel ones even with UEFi secure boot.

      As this ARM processor allows XEN and perhaps XEN VGA passthrough, if anyone can post an article with a how to install XEN VGA P at chromebooks and switch OSs with a click he/she will be one of my little heroes. This, if it is done, also can be used for Android + any GNU/Linux.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by mendieta View Post
        Yeah, that was my first thought, but then again, this would cost you $250. I am thinking of getting one for my son, who borrows my laptop for (middle) school work, mostly to write docs in Google Drive, research on the web and watch youtube videos. All of that should be fine. Most reviewers in Amazon use it like that: as a light device to take on trips for email, Blogging, text editing, etc. It draws very little power, it is light, decent but not great screen, you know, you kinda of get more than you pay for.

        Of course, a really crazy fast processor would cost more than the whole laptop
        The D525 is a fairly strong Atom-variant, not those ultra-weak ones that were put in netbooks in earlier generation.
        This is a dual-core version, clocked for 1.8Ghz and Hyperthreading capable.

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        • #19
          I've made some benchmarks with HP Pavillion tx2550ev: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...SU-1211119SU75 it looks quite interesting... But I agree, graphics, webbrowsing benchmarks will tell more!

          And merged results with Acer Aspire One and above HP: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...SU-MERGE400962
          Last edited by jabbas; 11-21-2012, 06:09 AM.

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          • #20
            the interesting thing here is that given the previous lukewarm reception to chromebooks

            both samsung and google had no idea this arm model would prove so popular

            so they sold out and now have supply difficulties



            also benchmarks don't show you the real picture of how it ACTUALLY runs ubuntu just how well the cpu performs...

            unity without a decent gpu driver most be painful

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pepe View Post
              Are you kidding? It's completely open.

              Someone even documented on Google+ right around the time that systems were introduced how to get a regular distro onto a Chromebook by booting from SD cards:

              https://plus.google.com/109993695638...ts/b2fazijJppZ
              I quoted those instructions earlier, and they are insanely complicated. There are two issues here: 1st. It is hard to dual boot on any chromebook device, and in part it has to do with the BIOS and ChromeOS security model. The second one is Samsung's fault: some of the kernel bits are binary blobs, so you'll see in these instructions that you need to manually copy a lot of binaries and hope for the best.

              This is _not_ an open laptop on my book. I should be able to pop any OS on a USB drive and tell the BIOS to load it, and that does not work. Sure, it can be hacked, anything can be hacked/rooted/cracked. It doesn't mean it's "open".

              In fairness to Google, ChromeOS is open source, but the model they follow is not open.

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              • #22
                Somebody wanted to compare this with E-450, so here it is: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...SU-1211219SU40

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Pallidus View Post
                  the interesting thing here is that given the previous lukewarm reception to chromebooks

                  both samsung and google had no idea this arm model would prove so popular

                  so they sold out and now have supply difficulties



                  also benchmarks don't show you the real picture of how it ACTUALLY runs ubuntu just how well the cpu performs...

                  unity without a decent gpu driver most be painful
                  I think the first thing after the Ubuntu install will be removing Unity and put on XFCE or Mate.

                  Unity would be way to slow for this hw.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by asoltesz View Post
                    I think the first thing after the Ubuntu install will be removing Unity and put on XFCE or Mate.

                    Unity would be way to slow for this hw.
                    If you wanted Xfce, I think you'd go for Xubuntu instead.

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                    • #25
                      That apache result is a bit interesting. Anyone know why it does badly on A15?

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                      • #26
                        fbdev

                        Using FBDev for it's graphics driver means you'll have a better Linux experience on a Matrox G200 equiped Xenon server from Dell.

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                        • #27
                          that's the thing

                          like JS said in that thread where I asked people if they were buying it


                          as good as the arm cpu perfomance is


                          doing anything... ANYTHING like watching a html5 video with the chromebook


                          will bring your system to it's knees


                          DECENT GPU DRIVERS OR GTFO


                          and this is what I don't understand about linux, if chrome OS is linux

                          and chrome OS has the driver

                          why can't anyone "steal" the driver from chrome os to linux??

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                          • #28
                            Chromebook needs following to be usable:
                            CPU ARM A57 quad core
                            RAM 4 GB
                            SSD 60 GB or more
                            open source 2D/3D graphics drivers with support for HW video decoding like VDPAU

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by jabbas View Post
                              Somebody wanted to compare this with E-450, so here it is: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...SU-1211219SU40
                              Will ubuntu 13.04 final version improve exynos5250's performance?

                              You may test A15 on Ubuntu12.10.

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                              • #30
                                that's asking too much JS

                                I believe it would be usable right now (after all it's faster than atom and atom's do run distros well)

                                all it would need is either a proprietary driver (google has it) or a oprn source mali gpu driver...


                                I sincerely doubt that samsung or google are going to deliver it so that's why I didn't buy one

                                but why should they care? they have sold so many you can't even find them anywhere


                                is this the future? a googlization of linux

                                android and chrome os

                                hey it's sorta, based on, kinda of, open source, and you can root it and hack it so it's better than nothing... right?

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