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  • #16
    Originally posted by daniels View Post
    Well, there's a few ex-MeeGo people at Jolla, most of whom weren't directly involved in hardware or software development, out of a couple of thousand when MeeGo wound up. So I think the whole 'continuation of the N9' thing has been massively, massively overplayed.
    Then its up to them to prove that they can do better and create something worthy no matter if they were involved in the N9 or not.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MartinK View Post
      Maemo - maintained by the community
      Moblin - dead (development stopped by Intel)
      MeeGo - dead (dumped by all participants after Nokias 11/2 Elopocalipse)
      Meltemi - dead (development stopped by Nokia)
      Tizen - status uncertain (developed behind closed doors, which also causes issues like the one described in this article)
      Mer - alive and kicking (= MEeGo Reconstructed - continues where MeeGo originally stopped; it is basically a metadistribution without any GUI; can be easily used for building fully functional mobile distros)
      Jolla - alive (based on mer with custom UI & polishing; should get its own device/s soon)
      Sailfish - alive (this is basically just Jolla licensed to other OEMs; basically like Iceweasel in Debian)
      WebOS - alive but uncertain (opensourced, but loosing support for running on its original hardware in the process; currently no plans for releasing further WebOS devices)
      Bada - dead (development stopped by Samsung; parts might land in Tizen to universal acclaim )
      Let's not forget crazy old aunty Canonical is busy knitting an Ubuntu phone in her room to

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      • #18
        Originally posted by daniels View Post
        Well, there's a few ex-MeeGo people at Jolla, most of whom weren't directly involved in hardware or software development, out of a couple of thousand when MeeGo wound up. So I think the whole 'continuation of the N9' thing has been massively, massively overplayed.
        You mean like a janitor & a receptionist? Yeah I'd have to agree that would be in the ball park of overplaying hehehe
        Last edited by chris2kari; 10-07-2012, 08:51 PM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by chris2kari View Post
          Let's not forget crazy old aunty Canonical is busy knitting an Ubuntu phone in her room to
          I thought that was basically just an android that would do a cheroot/ swaproot to Ubunutu when you plugged into an hdmi port.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by WorBlux View Post
            I thought that was basically just an android that would do a cheroot/ swaproot to Ubunutu when you plugged into an hdmi port.
            Personally I'm waiting for IBM to announce z/OS on a cell phone.. now dat be one serious mofo telephone

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            • #21
              The whole point of open source is sharing development cost in exchange of shared IP... Why on earth would you open your code, but not work with others?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by erendorn View Post
                The whole point of open source is sharing development cost in exchange of shared IP... Why on earth would you open your code, but not work with others?
                So that other could be blessed with the ability to fix your stuff?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by WorBlux View Post
                  I thought that was basically just an android that would do a cheroot/ swaproot to Ubunutu when you plugged into an hdmi port.
                  What Canocial will push, like it woud be the innovation of the year.

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                  • #24
                    "Since starting the company about a year ago, Mr. Hurmola said Jolla has been working hard to make its Sailfish operating system capable of working on different types of devices, including smartphones, touch-screen tablets and televisions. Another benefit with the MeeGo-based software is that it won't require the same high-end and costly hardware needed to run the latest versions of Android or Windows Phone."

                    Jolla Sailfish is benefiting from an infusion of 200 million Euros. I expect it will soon be a viable option to Google & Apple devices, and that it's just a question of time before it surpasses them. Establishing the Hong Kong Headquarters is a brilliant move.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by erendorn View Post
                      The whole point of open source is sharing development cost in exchange of shared IP... Why on earth would you open your code, but not work with others?
                      I was under the impression that this is how Android is developed. Google develops each new release in-house and then does a big source drop before release (thats why it takes the CM guys & company some time to update their releases). Not user if they accept patches & keep up with upstreem projects. There seems to be an initiative to reduce the patch-delta from the vanilla kernel though.

                      All the code is open and aside from the kernel under BSD, so the Chinese OEMs can crank all the Android tablets & phones they want, without paying Google & releasing their changes (as they seem to mostly ignore the GPL requirements for kernell changes anyway).

                      If you want to get the whole experience - Google apps & Google play, you have join the Open Handset Alliance and play by Googles rules.

                      The end result is the same though - more Android compatible devices, with Google as the default search engine, support for showing ads in applications and using Googles services. And all this with closed development cycle & open code.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MartinK View Post
                        All the code is open and aside from the kernel under BSD, so the Chinese OEMs can crank all the Android tablets & phones they want, without paying Google & releasing their changes (as they seem to mostly ignore the GPL requirements for kernell changes anyway
                        Android uses mostly the Apache license altough there are quite some BSD projects too. That doesn't change what you are saying though.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Remote User View Post
                          Jolla Sailfish is benefiting from an infusion of 200 million Euros. I expect it will soon be a viable option to Google & Apple devices, and that it's just a question of time before it surpasses them. Establishing the Hong Kong Headquarters is a brilliant move.
                          Certainly, but it's also used to (legally) avoid taxes in Finland by moving most income via the Hong Kong office to the Cayman Islands. (My memory could be wrong on the cayman islands part, but to a tax haven anyhow.)

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Thaodan View Post
                            What Canocial will push, like it woud be the innovation of the year.
                            Hope other manufacturers -the ones that use a more "traditional" linux stack- will push somethig like that also.

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