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  • #16
    I believe Motorola has patents that are just about necessary to build any cell phone at all, as does Nokia. That is probably what Google wants and what a cross-licensing agreement wouldn't give them to help against any patent lawsuits.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by PreferLinux View Post
      I believe Motorola has patents that are just about necessary to build any cell phone at all, as does Nokia. That is probably what Google wants and what a cross-licensing agreement wouldn't give them to help against any patent lawsuits.
      I also believe many of those are also (cross) licensed already. What I have yet to see is (even just a number) how many of those patents are not already license.

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      • #18
        Motorola Defy

        I hope this doesn't mean Motorola's version of Android becomes the "stock" version of Android. The Motorola Defy is probably the worst Android phone out there due to crashes, high battery use, and a lack of features in its software that people actually want and need...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Adarion View Post
          *announcer's voice*
          People are asked to stay in their homes. The following week is expected to be filled with high velocity chairs flying around from an unknown origin in the state of Washington. The epicenter seems to be in Redmond.
          Hey, now. I live in Redmond, and for two years lived across the street from Microsoft's main campus (literally, directly across the street), and I've yet to see a chair fly by even once.

          There has been a time or two, however, that I've heard a Kirk-like bellow of "SCHMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDT!"

          ... also, I swear to God if I never see another "i bing, u bing?" bumper sticker again, I will be able to die a happy man. Most like though if i don't see them anymore it just means I've died and no longer can see anything at all. sigh.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
            Samsung is too big to buy, and HTC doesn't have any patents, which I'm sure made Motorola the perfect target.

            Hopefully Samsung and HTC don't get too worried about this - i can see how they might be nervous that Android might start favoring Motorola phones now.
            Google has a history with buying companies with patent holdings ... Google bought On2, and then they gave everyone worldwide a perpetual, royalty-free, irrevocable and zero cost license to use those patents.

            Then they formed a community patent pool, similar to the OIN community patent pool for Linux patents, which Google is also a licensee.

            http://www.webm-ccl.org/

            I think Google may start another community patent pool for the mobile patents from MMI, whereupon Samsung and HTC would join immediately.

            In fact, Google don't even need to set up an orgainisation to do this, they already have one in place:

            http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/index.html

            HTC, Samsung, Motorola, Sony Ericsson and LG are already members:

            http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html

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            • #21
              Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
              That only works if the patent owners are actually willing to license them. Apple is not, they intend on using their patents to ban their competition rather than licensing and making money that way. This gives Google the firepower to launch a countersuit, which can be used to leverage a cross-licensing agreement that the other side wouldn't agree to otherwise.

              And the initial Google blog post about it mentioned patents quite prominently. It was definitely a large part of the reason they made this purchase. I'd guess controlling the whole stack is seen on an equal footing in terms of importance, or even a nice bonus, rather than the primary reason for purchasing Motorolla.
              Quite recently Motorola made it clear they WANT people to pay for the use of their patents so I don't think this would be a problem.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by 3rdalbum View Post
                I hope this doesn't mean Motorola's version of Android becomes the "stock" version of Android. The Motorola Defy is probably the worst Android phone out there due to crashes, high battery use, and a lack of features in its software that people actually want and need...
                That's why I run CyanogenMod7 on my Defy. You should try it, it's great and makes me <3 my Defy.
                And if anything I'd expect this to mean the opposite, meaning Motorolas handsets using a more stock Android, like the Google Nexus phones.

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                • #23
                  Yippy! Android. The worst phone OS in human history, with the exception of Windows Mobile...

                  Ditch this shit.

                  I'm waiting for open Maemo/Meego stuff. Maybe they care...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                    Yippy! Android. The worst phone OS in human history, with the exception of Windows Mobile...

                    Ditch this shit.

                    I'm waiting for open Maemo/Meego stuff. Maybe they care...
                    You serious? I'm waiting for my N900 replacement... package management on maemo sucks. It could work, but somehow the official package manager on the N900 simultaeneously sucks and has compatibility issues with apt-get.

                    Maybe someday we'll just be able to install debian on phones...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cyborg16 View Post
                      Maybe someday we'll just be able to install debian on phones...
                      I thought you can already do that:

                      Install Debian on Android
                      Debian Android Installer

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                        Yippy! Android. The worst phone OS in human history, with the exception of Windows Mobile...

                        Ditch this shit.
                        You've never used Symbian, have you :P

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                          I thought you can already do that:

                          Install Debian on Android
                          Debian Android Installer
                          Chroot? I know about that. I was talking about replacing android completely. Probably for now relying on android to provide battery management, phone software and underlying drivers makes sense though.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cyborg16 View Post
                            Chroot? I know about that. I was talking about replacing android completely. Probably for now relying on android to provide battery management, phone software and underlying drivers makes sense though.
                            Do you also know about Openmoko? The Freerunner hardware is old and buggy, but there is a 3G update in the works.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ansla View Post
                              Do you also know about Openmoko? The Freerunner hardware is old and buggy, but there is a 3G update in the works.
                              I've seen the old version, yes, but from what I could find out the devices had quite a few limitations. I'm hoping at some point debian or another distro can be installed on many smartphones the way you can just install linux on most laptop/desktop computers now and expect everything important to work and to have a device that's really competetive with mainstream devices but running open source software.

                              Is that going to happen with openmoko? Has it ever happened with open source hardware development? It's possible, but I don't have high hopes of that happening, but an atrix or galaxy S2 on debian? Probably won't happen in the lifetime of those phones but I don't see why we can't hope to see that happening a few years down the road.

                              In the mean-time I'll do the next best thing and use debian-chroot on top of android as RealNC suggested.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Cyborg16 View Post
                                You serious? I'm waiting for my N900 replacement... package management on maemo sucks. It could work, but somehow the official package manager on the N900 simultaeneously sucks and has compatibility issues with apt-get.

                                Maybe someday we'll just be able to install debian on phones...
                                Is it just me?

                                I get the feeling there will be a sea of phone distro's that will probably come out after we hit the phone upgrade wall. At this stage, phones are in the quick technology acceleration stage. So in the space of a 10 years they advanced at rate so fast, that phones only a few years old, look like bricks in comparison. I bet that the upgrade wall will stop soon, if it hasn't happened already. Seriously, how much better can phone technology get. Otherwise they'll overtake the PC market in no time. (like that'll ever happen!)

                                Once we hit that wall, the open source community will flourish... Think about it... Could you just imagine ubuntu on a phone? If not ubuntu, there will be other similar open source phone os's that will come out to compete with Android and iOS. Maybe not a technology wall but more like a buffer since new technology creation never stops. Either way phones will be very powerful in the next 10 years...

                                Think about what we'll be doing with these phones... Apart from all our personal stuff... : Music, videos, documents, work files, credit card, etc... It'll happen. Trust me. It's already happening. I don't think people will want to settle with just Android / iPhone. People will want to use a flavour of linux possibly.

                                I personally can't wait till that wall is hit, because I'm sick of the fanboy attitude towards smart phones. It's reminiscent of the car manufacturer bias that people have. People literally defend their little gadget like it's got feelings and is possibly hurting more than an inflated ego. Even though in 5 years time it will be more than likely chucked in the waste bin along with every other smart phone. Well hah! That's when I'm sure the linux 'hacking' community will shine.

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