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  • Will Wright's SPORE makes customers angry (DRM inside)

    Taking a quick look at the Amazon.com page for SPORE I was amazed to read the opinion of so many angry customers, the reason behind all the madness and turmoil comes down to Electronic Arts' (excessive) use of DRM, which uses SecuROM.

    Such a scenario happened in the past with MASS EFFECT but after so many complaints from actual buyers EA have decided to remove the copy protection.

    If you don't quite understand what this is all about: EA limits the installation of SPORE up to three times. Afterwards you are required to phone EA (calling is not free, of course) and beg them to give you the right to one more installation, but then the odds are good that you will be regarded as a naughty (one-eyed) pirate, and you should expect lots of questions as to why you need to 'rent' the game again. Whereas people who downloaded it for free are by no means bothered by this hassle.

    I think this is just insane and EA should be ashamed of treating their customers as junk, and if this is indeed what we're heading to with Linux -LGP introducing their new game copy protection- I believe I will no longer use my PC as a gaming platform. Or playing open source games is the only alternate way.

    Would you buy a product that is so crippled? How can we avoid such drastic measures on our side?

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    We all have a clear stance on copy protection. It sucks and it doesn't work. What you have to note though is that EA doesn't see it that way. Angry customers? Guess what? Red Alert 3 will ship with SecuRom too. They don't listen.

    In my opinion, we've all badgered, whined, and screamed that copy protection is foul play... treat us like thieves, bla bla bla. All of it, true, but it doesn't change the fact that EA doesn't see it that way and will probably... never.

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    • #3
      Angry customers? Guess what? Red Alert 3 will ship with SecuRom too. They don't listen. << But you can have it installed on 5 pcs similar. And when you uninstall it, you can install it another time. You're even allowed to play on a small lan (up to 5 pcs) with only 1 dvd (and when they uninstall it, again, you can install it on another 5 pcs). Seems quiet fair. Though, EA sucks ==> I won't buy it.

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      • #4
        Apparently the people buying it actually LIKE what EA is doing to them...

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        • #5
          Another PC game i wont be buying then. Thank you EA for making me save my money! Seriously, who would buy a product that comes with a pair of handcuffs that you have to wear before you can use it? That's what copy-protection schemes boil down to, and it's BS.

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          • #6
            Oddly enough, this is what Windows has been doing since Windows XP.

            I am for SOME form of DRM, to make the companies at ease, and to prevent mom and pop from copying it (see Steam thread), but this type of implementation isn't it. This is Microsoft's way of thinking, "licensing" a user to play instead of a user owning a copy.
            Last edited by me262; 09-10-2008, 12:36 PM. Reason: Not all Windows, just the ones from this century.

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            • #7
              Huh? Who runs a windows copy he activated? For sure I do not ( except on the laptop where it is OEM activated ). Next to all use an anti-activation crack to get rid of this step. Did this with all my legit copies. Phoning home to M$? I would die first before doing that :P

              As mentioned somewhere, it takes a large crash in the games industries due to DRM before they wake up. They are like potatoes... eyes open just after they hit the dirt

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dragonlord View Post
                They are like potatoes... eyes open just after they hit the dirt
                ROFLMAO! Lovely analogy, that...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dragonlord View Post
                  Huh? Who runs a windows copy he activated? For sure I do not ( except on the laptop where it is OEM activated ). Next to all use an anti-activation crack to get rid of this step. Did this with all my legit copies. Phoning home to M$? I would die first before doing that :P

                  As mentioned somewhere, it takes a large crash in the games industries due to DRM before they wake up. They are like potatoes... eyes open just after they hit the dirt
                  Dragonlord, your humor is just so deliciously funny.

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                  • #10
                    Actually, I don't buy Windows games (I used to) or use that operating system for any task whatsoever. However, my brother wanted me to dual boot with XP because he's such a hardcore pc gamer, his favorite game at the moment being AGE OF CONAN: HYBORIAN ADVENTURES and I have to say this is one title I'm drooling over, sometimes I wish I had that for Linux as well. It was also his plan to purchase SPORE some time in the future but fortunately I managed to talk him out of it. All I'm saying it was my duty to warn him about and protect him from these abusive methods.

                    Obviously I don't play that many games, if compared to my brother. Yet, when intentionally leaving all the shiny pretty little things behind and not having to buy a new game every month I think I have grown more appreciative of the very few titles I was given the right to play on my Linux box, with even more in-depth gameplay time allowed.

                    So treat me or my brother like a thief and we'll be glad to disappoint you, EA. Especially on an OS I don't give a monkey's nuts about. Besides Tux has bigger nuts.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by domkop View Post
                      Especially on an OS I don't give a monkey's nuts about. Besides Tux has bigger nuts.
                      . This one though had been OLOTD ( One-Liner of the day ) worthy too

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dragonlord View Post
                        . This one though had been OLOTD ( One-Liner of the day ) worthy too
                        Yeah, I have to admit, that was a gem too.

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                        • #13
                          Well, I have read that Spore is actually a very good, very fun game to play. Sucks that not many people will see that because of the draconian DRM it has installed.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by xav1r View Post
                            Well, I have read that Spore is actually a very good, very fun game to play.
                            I've heard that, as long as you like casual Sim-type games (which I do not; casual, yes, Sim, no).

                            Relevant: http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=994
                            And another guy bought a [PC] game, and he's in the armed forces, he's in Iraq actually. And the people there, not everybody there is in combat all the time, they're just stationed there, and they often don't have internet access. So he gets a game, it's single-player only--you can probably guess what game it is, pretty big-name game. And he can't play it because it insists on connecting to the internet to play it. And he's just like, "That's it. I can buy an Xbox 360 or a PlayStation 3, and I'm not putting up with this. It just works."
                            And it doesn't work on their machine, and they go back to the store, and the store goes, "You can't return a game, you opened it." And so they're like, "Screw this, I'll just get a console game."
                            The answer is that you focus on people who buy your stuff, who will buy computer software. The game industry is the only industry that I know of that sweats people playing their games even if they were never gonna buy them. It's completely different form the software industry in this regard. Adobe for example--I'm sure they don't like the fact that people pirate Adobe Photoshop, but I doubt they're losing sleep over it. There's no major common business software that I can think of where they go through the elaborate lengths to control piracy that the game industry does.

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                            • #15
                              Well, yea Chris, that's true for the beggining and middle stages of the game, but from what i read the game gets really hardcore when you reach the final technology stage, where it becomes some sort of space RTS game.

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