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  • Falcon Northwest Decides Against Steam Machines With SteamOS

    Phoronix: Falcon Northwest Decides Against Steam Machines With SteamOS

    High-end PC maker Falcon Northwest has decided against rolling out any Steam Machines this year powered by Valve's Debian-based SteamOS, due to problems with the operating system...

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    I can't really blame hardware manufacturers. The SteamOS launch was thoroughly underwhelming and SteamOS itself is still missing a plethora of features as compared to consoles. How has valve not integrated Twitch streaming or even recording in general into Steam Big Picture Mode yet? Also, Netflix and Hulu integration. All this needs to be in Steam Big Picture Mode if it is to compete with consoles, let alone Windows.

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    • #3
      Something really doesn't make sense here. I don't know much about the hardware support of SteamOS, but I would think that it'd support just about any hardware that any other distro (such as Debian...) would support, albeit with a greater focus on nvidia. If that's true, then that means Falcon is trying to use a piece of hardware known to not be linux-friendly, in which case, why? They're making something specifically for SteamOS and they chose a piece of hardware known to not work? That just sounds so idiotic to me.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sirdilznik View Post
        I can't really blame hardware manufacturers. The SteamOS launch was thoroughly underwhelming and SteamOS itself is still missing a plethora of features as compared to consoles. How has valve not integrated Twitch streaming or even recording in general into Steam Big Picture Mode yet? Also, Netflix and Hulu integration. All this needs to be in Steam Big Picture Mode if it is to compete with consoles, let alone Windows.

        Yet none of those concerns have anything to do with a hardware OEM. It's not an OEM's job to subjectively analyze the features of an OS (other than for support for their hardware). It would be absurd for Falcoln not to ship Windows 10 on their PCs because it doesn't have feature parity with OSX or Ubuntu.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
          They're making something specifically for SteamOS and they chose a piece of hardware known to not work?
          Cut-rate network chips and cheap mobos are classics. Saving pennies per unit will increase your margins in the commodity hardware world. Most hardware is tested only using the mainland China equivalent of Microsoft Windows.

          If a manufacturer choses not to support the Steam OS marketplace because their hardware doesn't work, then they won't be missed.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bregma View Post
            Cut-rate network chips and cheap mobos are classics. Saving pennies per unit will increase your margins in the commodity hardware world. Most hardware is tested only using the mainland China equivalent of Microsoft Windows.

            If a manufacturer choses not to support the Steam OS marketplace because their hardware doesn't work, then they won't be missed.
            I understand that, but when you're designing a piece of hardware for the purpose of SteamOS, it doesn't make sense why they'd choose a piece of hardware that doesn't work to save a few pennies. Y'know what would save them more money? Not including that piece of hardware at all.

            Assuming the hardware is already developed, they already wasted so much money just designing it, seeing as it now won't be sold for it's intended purpose.

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            • #7
              They need to keep it secret...same stupidity as the sites saying SteamOS to be slower than Wirows. :-). Or Asus to ship so called Steam machines with Wirows. Valve should sue them all together in Texas and make a lot of money...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by thebishop View Post


                Yet none of those concerns have anything to do with a hardware OEM. It's not an OEM's job to subjectively analyze the features of an OS (other than for support for their hardware). It would be absurd for Falcoln not to ship Windows 10 on their PCs because it doesn't have feature parity with OSX or Ubuntu.
                Sure it is. Just like other businesses, the OEM is trying to make money. If the software does not meet the requirements to make a competitive product, who is going to buy it? There's already an existing market for Windows based PCs so it's a no-brainer to sell them. The SteamOS-based console market has not been proven yet, so it's getting more scrutiny. It takes a lot of work and money to build a physical product: design, development, supply channel, inventory, shipping, support, warranty, marketing, etc... If you don't expect to ship enough units to cover your costs and make a profit, it makes sense to not produce that product. There's also an opportunity cost as well: even if you expect to make a profit on that product, if there's another product that you can produce that is going to make a bigger profit, why would you make first product instead of the second?

                As much as I'd love to SteamOS and Steam boxes take off, there are a lot of unknowns right now about who they're for: They don't really have enough AAA titles and are much more expensive while having fewer features (Netflix, Streaming integration, etc) to lure traditional console gamers. Even if you're already a PC gamer in the Steam ecosystem, it makes more sense to just get a Steam Link: you probably already have a gaming PC to stream from, a Steam box probably can't play all your games, so you'll need streaming anyway; it's much cheaper.

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                • #9
                  a console with windows... lol when upgrading ppl need to go sleep, after some mounths all type of virus in machine. SteamOS is a secure and easy to use system for consoles nothing more nothing less and need time to improve

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                  • #10
                    Gamers still need Windows, you can only play parts of the Steam catalog with Linux and no game from Origin. Certainly you can try Steam with Wine(-Staging) to play the rest of the games but that's totally unsupported use of SteamOS. I can fully understand this decision - SteamOS is a very limited OS, you can not even take it as full desktop replacement.

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