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  • Originally posted by Aradreth View Post
    This is currently being done for Morrowind http://openmw.snaptoad.com/ an interesting choice of language I might add (using D).

    Edit: xav1r's mention of adventure games brought Sam and Max to mind, it's a small franchise but has a solid group of fans.
    Ah, yea, Sam and max, do you mean the original release of the game, or the newer episodic games? In either case i believe theres a good chance the company involved would be interested. hehehe, funny how in the adventure game industry the stakes arent that high as to make companies weary of their returns in investment.

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    • Originally posted by Svartalf View Post

      Soldier of Fortune II - Maybe. Need to get a few of these likely candidates under our belts before we go to Raven and ask 'em about it or anything else they've got rights to.
      Regarding soldier of fortune II, it'd be a good candidate, and maybe Soldier of Fortune I too. SofI does have a linux client, but it's not very good, and its outdated.

      Im thinking, what about Kingpin, life of crime? It was an awesome game in its time. Problem is, it's unclear who owns the rights to that game.

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      • Actually there IS a native SoF I version released for Linux (courtesy of Loki, actually)

        Oops. I didn't see you actually said SoF HAD a Linux version. I would agree about an update, maybe release a point-release (patch) for GlibC 2.3+ and GCC3.2+? That'd be nice.

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        • yea, and improve multiplayer support, maybe widescreen support too.

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          • Originally posted by xav1r View Post
            Well, both of the Witchaven titles' full source code modfifications to the build engine are available for free, one of the former programmers that worked on it released them on his website. www.lesbird.com.
            Okay... That changes the list up. Thanks for the head's up on the source there. Not the top-notch stuff, but fun to play from what I understand.

            BTw, did you get my previous post about Redneck Rampage? The franchise was bought a few years ago by Vivendi, they own the rights to it, so it might be a problem getting them to allow it to be ported.
            Rights to the franchise doesn't always get code with it. I suspect VU bought the rights to eventually produce a "new" version of the game, dredging up a good hokey franchise, zombie-like, and ruin the whole thing for everyone...

            Since it's VU with clear title to the rights for future passes at that game franchise, it's definitely a dead end for now.

            Do you think 3dr would agree to port their games too? I would love to see rise of the triad native on linux. Maybe some adventure games, like Perry Rhodan too.
            Heh... If they have the source (Not all studios keep track of this stuff forever- I'm sure Apogee/3DR has a few of their source trees in a releasable form, but not all of them- not to mention that things like Terminal Velocity had license-outs to Microsoft (Hellbender) and those deals may preclude release or remixes being done...) and I can sweet talk them out of doing it, probably. I'd have to build up to it first though. Cold, right now, with only a couple of port projects, they may not give me the time of day, even if I AM local to 'em.

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            • Originally posted by xav1r View Post
              Oh, sorry, yea, its kinda around there, here's a direct link:

              http://www.lesbird.com/CAPSTONE/default.htm

              Right there's the full source of the 3 games he worked at while employed at that company.

              Edit: Oh, just as a note, as it's stated on the site, one of the files has a virus. It's an old dos era virus, that can be easily detected and eliminated with any free AV available. Since most if not all the people here are *nix users i dont think that'll be a problem anyways.
              Heh... As a note- this is being offered up as abandonware by one of the devs. We honestly want to evaluate finding the rights holder for these pieces if possible; they may be "okay" with Witchaven I & II being "revived", possibly even liberated- TekWar might not be so hot and the rights holder may not want it done so as the assets were not their own and were obtained elsewhere legitimately. If we can get a rights signoff on any of these, we can modernize their stuff with the Polymost/Network enhancements in the JFBuild version of the engine.
              Last edited by Svartalf; 07-08-2008, 12:06 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Aradreth View Post
                This is currently being done for Morrowind http://openmw.snaptoad.com/ an interesting choice of language I might add (using D).
                Considering that the engine, etc. are all in C++ or simple C, D seems like overkill and going out on a limb for a "pet" language to me. If it works, I suppose it's okay, but OpenMW doesn't count for the purposes of this discussion list unless we can get it fully working and can secure rights from Bethesda for a "remix" for Linux and other platforms.

                Edit: xav1r's mention of adventure games brought Sam and Max to mind, it's a small franchise but has a solid group of fans.
                Hm... Might be able to secure Linux rights to that... Goes in the "maybe" list for now...

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                • Originally posted by xav1r View Post
                  Im thinking, what about Kingpin, life of crime? It was an awesome game in its time. Problem is, it's unclear who owns the rights to that game.
                  Kingpin HAD a Linux version courtesy of Xatrix before they renamed themselves to Grey Matter (Heh, found 'em!)... The site where the binaries were at went bye-bye (Interplay...go figure...) so I'm not sure where one might obtain or if they'd even work.

                  They're now defunct, though they were an inside studio for Activision for a time- Grey Matter's URL goes to Treyarch (Which is local, I believe...) so the rights and source trees may have went there (though what they might have done with 'em remains to be seen...). Kingpin's going to have to probably be placed in the "dead-end" listing for now because of all of that.
                  Last edited by Svartalf; 07-08-2008, 12:39 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Redeeman View Post
                    svartalf, one game i PARTICULARLY would like to see, is a game released for amiga and pc(win95 probably?)

                    its a pinball game called slamtilt, its the best pinball game _EVER_ made, and i'd certainly pay good money for a port to linux.
                    Ya, that game was fun...even the 5 minute demo was a fun timewaster

                    Putting that on Linux would be nice IF it is possible...

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                    • Thank you for opening this thread.

                      I remember Svartalf destroying my hopes of a Deus Ex 1 port in the other thread yet a bit of hope still prevails so I'd like to add

                      Deus Ex 1 and
                      Master of Orion 2

                      to the list. Both are among my favourite games and I'd love to see them ported to Linux.

                      (I can't seem to get the search function to get working therefore I don't know if the games have already been discussed (haven't read the whole thread yet, I'm somewhere around page 12...))

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                      • Originally posted by charon View Post
                        Thank you for opening this thread.
                        You're welcome. I thought brain-storming about things (which surprised even me- we've got some good leads here...) would be a more productive use of my and you all's time than bitching about DRM, "crappy games", etc...

                        I remember Svartalf destroying my hopes of a Deus Ex 1 port in the other thread yet a bit of hope still prevails so I'd like to add


                        Deus Ex 1 and
                        Master of Orion 2

                        to the list. Both are among my favourite games and I'd love to see them ported to Linux.

                        (I can't seem to get the search function to get working therefore I don't know if the games have already been discussed (haven't read the whole thread yet, I'm somewhere around page 12...))
                        No, neither have been discussed yet. You're probably not going to like the answers, to be honest...


                        Deus EX - This was nearly to the Beta phase just as Loki imploded. Eidos "supposedly" got the source back from them. That remains to be seen that this happened even though Loki made that as their public statement regarding all the port work they'd done.

                        IF you can convince Eidos to part with the Loki derived version (If they even have it...) or get permission from them to allow the developer with the tree to hand it off to someone else or to complete the work (IF they still have it in their stuff by now- they may have nuked it from orbit to reclaim space or to honor IP rights, etc.)- you can have a port. In all honesty, until you show them some proof we're going to make something with this, unless you can convince them to open source the thing, you're going to have the same mess LGP has trying to get AAA titles (Which this one is...). Same story as before, I'm afraid. I'll look into it as a "maybe" but I don't hold out much hope for it or the sequel for us at this time.


                        Masters of Orion 2 - Not likely. Simtex shuttered its doors in '97. No clear path for IP rights past the published DOS, Win95 (Microprose), and MacOS versions (MacSoft)- I doubt that Simtex relinquished much of any rights past what was given to Microprose or MacSoft on this one, so it's not likely the publishers have anything for us, even if they were still a going interest. Give me a favorable lead and I'll put it in the "being considered" pile. Otherwise, it's just another unfortunate dead end.

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                        • Originally posted by DeepDayze View Post
                          Ya, that game was fun...even the 5 minute demo was a fun timewaster

                          Putting that on Linux would be nice IF it is possible...
                          Not possible at this time- rights holder is defunct. No clues as to whom has code in hand and the rights to allow a port.

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                          • Hey Svartalf! Thanks for considering my suggestions! Regarding 3DR, well, they do own the rights and the source code of 3 of their games, Rise of the Triad, Duke Nukem 3d and Shadow Warrior. They even released the source code of all those 3 games as GPL, so I assume it'd not be that difficult to work something out with them. Regarding Witchaven I, II and tekwar, it'd be interesting too, I dont think there's gonna be any ip rights problem, actually, if there's a copyright holder of those games, working with the code might be a way to get their attention. Apparently Capstone/Intracorp wasnt bought out by any other company after they folded.

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                            • Just a quick note, I think someone mentioned Raptor Call of Shadows before, the developer of this cool game still sells the game from their website http://www.mking.com/about.htm, they might be interested in a linux port of it.

                              Since we are were discussing build engine games, what about Powerslave? It was a fun game when it was released, but sadly its original developer, Lobotomy Software, went boom, and the publisher of that game, Playmates interactive Entertaintment, doesnt have the rights to that game. I tried contacting one of the developers that worked on that game, Ezra Dreisbach, but couldnt reach him. Maybe you could have better luck tracking him down. He later worked on the Champions of Norrath games.
                              Last edited by xav1r; 07-08-2008, 10:27 PM.

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                              • more random choices : Im on a roll!!!

                                -Interstate 75
                                -Syndicate Wars
                                -Simcity hehehe

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