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  • #31
    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    Or he's saying that he is a very lonely person and must rely on himself to give him a birthday party and pretends the cube is a real friend.
    Riiight... Ryan's definitely not without friends.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
      Riiight... Ryan's definitely not without friends.
      He could be hiding right now with all the headhunters looking for the UT3 client.

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      • #33
        Wild thought: Could Steam the middleware Ryan was talking about, and Epic is waiting for the client of that to be released so they can release their game? Dumb idea, I know, is just taht we've pretty much covered it all... what's more what if he is doing the Steam port? There goes the dreamer again... Somebody stop me.
        Last edited by Thetargos; 04-26-2008, 10:50 AM.

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        • #34
          Well, all I can add to this is something I found on the mailing list quite some time ago (which I kept forgetting to post) which suggests Ryan knew there were going to be issues:

          Subject: Re: [ut3] 64 Bit Linux Version?
          From: "Ryan C. Gordon" <icculus@icculus.org>
          Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:12:12 -0400
          Thomas Kowaliczek wrote:
          > Will it give an 64 Bit Linux version? like ut2004 ?

          No plans to do this at this time (but if I ever get a free moment, I'll
          look into it...I have a feeling that a lot of middleware is going to be
          problematic this time around, though).

          --ryan.
          edit:

          On a side note, UT3 was what I was hoping to have fun with on Linux after I get my next PC...appears like I'll just have to keep with UT99/04
          Last edited by MasterGH; 04-26-2008, 04:30 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by deanjo View Post
            He could be hiding right now with all the headhunters looking for the UT3 client.
            Heh... Ever the pessimist, eh, deanjo? Keep doing that- at the least it'll keep Thetargos and myself honest... >:-)

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Thetargos View Post
              Wild thought: Could Steam the middleware Ryan was talking about, and Epic is waiting for the client of that to be released so they can release their game? Dumb idea, I know, is just taht we've pretty much covered it all... what's more what if he is doing the Steam port? There goes the dreamer again... Somebody stop me.
              I suggested that over a month ago.

              http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showp...&postcount=167

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              • #37
                Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                Hey now, you're supposed to be pessimistic here... :P

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                  Yeah, you did mention it may be Steam, I mentioned (based on Valve's job announcement on their site) that maybe they're actually working on a port.

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                  • #39
                    I'm surprised the idea of a Linux port of a piece of DRM-infected software like Steam gets such an enthusiastic reaction, though I appreciate that it could encourage more developers to add Linux functionality. It's be a royal shame if it was something like that holding up UT3. I'd prefer to think they were holding it up to release it in time with the 360 or Mac port- it still not a good thing, but at least we're not bound by Steam that way.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Thetargos View Post
                      I guess we'll never know for sure what is the hold up and why have they decided to forsake Linux talk from the forums. Maybe they were asked by Microsoft to do so in order to have the game in the 360 (a long shot and it'd be stretching it) or they simply lost interest... Whatever the reason, as I've said before, it's their prerogative.

                      I hope Ryan keeps on working in interesting projects for Linux.
                      and how exactly do you figure its "their prerogative" ? they announced that the shit was coming, and as a result people have gone out and bought their software, since they were promised that they were gonna be able to play it on linux, with a native client. Its been half a year, and nothing has been released, hell, they havent even said why, said when they expect it to be released, or even said if its still going to be released.. You know, there is a little thing called a lie, and epic's marketing might need to look that up.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                        Past performance does not indicate current performance with business.
                        Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                        Exactly, you can't base ANY companies current strategies by their past record
                        It's not perfect information but it's generally better than none If I was a gambling on this I'd be a fool to ignore past performance.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Ze.. View Post
                          It's not perfect information but it's generally better than none If I was a gambling on this I'd be a fool to ignore past performance.

                          Only if your comparing company A to company B and betting on which will follow though given a choice. When gambling on the certainty of just one company, especially in the IT industry, marketing strategies changes with the tides based on current and future needs and wants.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Shakey_Jake33 View Post
                            I'm surprised the idea of a Linux port of a piece of DRM-infected software like Steam gets such an enthusiastic reaction, though I appreciate that it could encourage more developers to add Linux functionality. It's be a royal shame if it was something like that holding up UT3. I'd prefer to think they were holding it up to release it in time with the 360 or Mac port- it still not a good thing, but at least we're not bound by Steam that way.
                            You know, I'm not so thrilled as having Steam, as having an answer to it all. No answers and the conduct they've had recently is troubling.

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                            • #44
                              Steam is crap. Maybe for buying old games you can't find anywhere else, but for new releases having to authenticate and connect to the web each time, besides the connection you already have to the internet with your broadband connection just for playing single or multiplayer is crap. Newell can take his steam and shove it up his big a**.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Redeeman View Post
                                and how exactly do you figure its "their prerogative" ? they announced that the shit was coming, and as a result people have gone out and bought their software, since they were promised that they were gonna be able to play it on linux, with a native client. Its been half a year, and nothing has been released, hell, they havent even said why, said when they expect it to be released, or even said if its still going to be released.. You know, there is a little thing called a lie, and epic's marketing might need to look that up.
                                It is still entirely up to them. They said it was coming, never said when or that they would actually commit... Just like politicians, they say a lot of stuff during campaign, and are actually seldom able to deliver all of their promises. And even if they did, it is still their right (prerogative) to cancel the project if they so choose to. It is wrong, it means they lied, but it is still their option to release it or not... And there's nothing you can do, except maybe get your money back, which I'd doubt because, you bought the Windows version anyway, and nowhere in the box is stated Linux support, despite anything they might have said.

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