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    Phoronix: Valve Has Come A Long Way: 2 Years Ago They Were Linux Headhunting

    Valve has come a long way in the past two years over the past two years with the introduction of Steam for Linux, porting of their games to Linux, the introduction of SteamOS, pushing of other game publishers to Linux, open-sourcing some game components, and much more...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY0NzM

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    Originally posted by phoronix View Post
    Phoronix: Valve Has Come A Long Way: 2 Years Ago They Were Linux Headhunting

    Valve has come a long way in the past two years over the past two years with the introduction of Steam for Linux, porting of their games to Linux, the introduction of SteamOS, pushing of other game publishers to Linux, open-sourcing some game components, and much more...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY0NzM
    If it makes you feel better most of us thought it was a joke as well. Linux gaming is becoming a thing. I wish I could stop playing Dota2 long enough to play some other games I own but I keep buying most everything that looks interesting to show my support. Thanks valve.

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    • #3
      First off, yes, Michael, you were right And thanks for helping them move things forward.

      As for a request: I would love for Valve to work with Crouton and Google, and team up to produce Chromebooks and Chromeboxes that will game via Steam. The main requirement is 4GB of RAM at least, and a harddrive( as opposed to 2GB RAM and 16gb SSD). Given the low resolution in these machines, a Haswell Celeron will do for most games.

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      • #4
        Steamboxes, steam os, and announcements for many interesting games on linux/steam os. I find the idea of having a small dedicated steambox that I actually own and I can upgrade its hardware very appealing.

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        • #5
          I'm satisfied with Valve's work on GNU Linux. As a user, I can only ask for more games and more free software releases. VOGL is a good initiative. Support on free drivers would be a nice thing. GNU Linux graphics stack works best with a full free stack (as anything Linux related).
          Improvements on game library sharing should be made. As I understand now, you share the whole library and it's not game by game.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Filiprino View Post
            I'm satisfied with Valve's work on GNU Linux. As a user, I can only ask for more games and more free software releases. VOGL is a good initiative. Support on free drivers would be a nice thing. GNU Linux graphics stack works best with a full free stack (as anything Linux related).
            Improvements on game library sharing should be made. As I understand now, you share the whole library and it's not game by game.
            Are you using a translator? It sounds like it.

            As long as you're playing any Steam game, you're not using a fully free stack.

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            • #7
              I really want this to succeed!

              However, I'm getting more and more pessimistic.
              There are very few AAA titles released (I love indie games, don't get me wrong).
              Some have been announced long time ago: X-Com, Civ5, Total War 2 etc...
              The Steam Linux user base stagnates.
              I didn't expected it to explode, but hope was high that it reaches 3-5% at least.
              The German magazin heise* lately featured an article how crappy the current steam controller is (Link to article).
              According to Valve they plan to change only minor details...

              It's great what has been achieved so far, but I somehow miss the progress lately.
              Let's hope the Steam Machines will change this.

              [*] heise has a high reputation and is not known for sensationalism.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Calinou View Post
                Are you using a translator? It sounds like it.

                As long as you're playing any Steam game, you're not using a fully free stack.
                My natural language is not English and I wrote that comment without much though on how to write it correctly. If you found any errors you could tell me about them.

                When I'm talking about a fully free stack I'm talking on the OS side of things: basic user land (OpenGL libraries, kernel interfaces...) plus kernel land (drivers...). Of course Steam is not free and on top of that it has DRM.
                Last edited by Filiprino; 03-29-2014, 04:18 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mendieta View Post
                  First off, yes, Michael, you were right And thanks for helping them move things forward.

                  As for a request: I would love for Valve to work with Crouton and Google, and team up to produce Chromebooks and Chromeboxes that will game via Steam. The main requirement is 4GB of RAM at least, and a harddrive( as opposed to 2GB RAM and 16gb SSD). Given the low resolution in these machines, a Haswell Celeron will do for most games.
                  The last thing we need is Google swalling up even bigger parts of the market and more Linux users (technically and emotionally) dependent on Google crap.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by entropy View Post
                    Some have been announced long time ago: X-Com, Civ5, Total War 2 etc...
                    Civ5 was never announced for Linux/SteamOS. It's just some websites spread rumors based on nothing.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by _SXX_ View Post
                      Civ5 was never announced for Linux/SteamOS. It's just some websites spread rumors based on nothing.
                      "just some websites" happens to be the official steam website.
                      The "rumors" came form a screenshot used in the initial SteamOS campaign. Worst case, it it was just a reference for streaming games over a local network connection. Best case, there will be a Linux port.

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                      • #12
                        It's hard to know if these efforts are really going to pan out. Valve still hasn't presented a good reason to abandon the Windows platform and the number of people willing to forfeit the console experience in the living room for a Steam Machine is probably quite limited.

                        I could be wrong but so far their efforts definitely haven't knocked my socks off. The results are quite mediocre (to be generous) compared to what we have today on Windows. And the only support from inside the industry seems to be coming from a few indie devs.

                        It'd be nice to at least get a small Source 2 demo to show off what Linux can do with modern graphics. Instead we just have these very, very awful ports that seem to confirm a lot of the widespread suspicions about Linux weaknesses.

                        It seems like when Valve realized that they could make millions by simply culling off a portion of a virtual hat economy, their engineering talent went completely flat. Where the hell are the games? It's hard to get excited about a company that is merely an electronic store.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by johnc View Post
                          It's hard to know if these efforts are really going to pan out. Valve still hasn't presented a good reason to abandon the Windows platform and the number of people willing to forfeit the console experience in the living room for a Steam Machine is probably quite limited.

                          I could be wrong but so far their efforts definitely haven't knocked my socks off. The results are quite mediocre (to be generous) compared to what we have today on Windows. And the only support from inside the industry seems to be coming from a few indie devs.

                          It'd be nice to at least get a small Source 2 demo to show off what Linux can do with modern graphics. Instead we just have these very, very awful ports that seem to confirm a lot of the widespread suspicions about Linux weaknesses.

                          It seems like when Valve realized that they could make millions by simply culling off a portion of a virtual hat economy, their engineering talent went completely flat. Where the hell are the games? It's hard to get excited about a company that is merely an electronic store.
                          Yeah let's compare Linux gaming after 2 years of Valve building a foundation by fixing drivers, implementing steam and starting to address issues with debuggers to 20 years of Windows gaming monopoly.

                          "And the only support from inside the industry seems to be coming from a few indie devs."

                          Yes indie devs like Epic and Crytek.

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                          • #14
                            Two years? Huh, it feels like it was yesterday...

                            What's been your favorite action by Valve towards the Linux gaming community?
                            So far my favourite must be their decision to base SteamOS on Debian.

                            Originally posted by johnc View Post
                            It's hard to get excited about a company that is merely an electronic store.
                            GOG.com is a rather exciting electronic store.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mendieta View Post
                              First off, yes, Michael, you were right And thanks for helping them move things forward.

                              As for a request: I would love for Valve to work with Crouton and Google, and team up to produce Chromebooks and Chromeboxes that will game via Steam. The main requirement is 4GB of RAM at least, and a harddrive( as opposed to 2GB RAM and 16gb SSD). Given the low resolution in these machines, a Haswell Celeron will do for most games.
                              As nice as that would be, Chrome OS isn't a normal Linux distro with normal utilities, and because of how all third party apps run through the web, I doubt they could even come close to supporting the platform.

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