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  • Valve Is Making All Their Games Free To Debian Developers

    Phoronix: Valve Is Making All Their Games Free To Debian Developers

    Valve will be making all of their games -- past, present, and future -- available for free to Debian Linux developers...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTU3OTc

  • #2
    "Free" but not DRM-free. Valve should start getting rid of DRM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by shmerl View Post
      "Free" but not DRM-free. Valve should start getting rid of DRM.
      Its up to publisher of game to decide, whether its DRM-free or DRMed. What has Valve to do with it?..

      Also, Valve has already, for a long time, provided "Reviewer Access" or "Press Access" - that is access to ALL Steam games for reviewers, platform developers, publishers.
      It comes very logical why they do that. It is very valuable and will push stability, review count and finally user base.

      Clearly, this access is NOT for those who seek to just play games.
      Last edited by brosis; 01-22-2014, 02:51 PM.

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      • #4
        Valve has to do with it a lot, by not providing installers / packages even when the publisher doesn't object.

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        • #5
          I wanna become a debian dev!! Damn cool.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by shmerl View Post
            Valve has to do with it a lot, by not providing installers / packages even when the publisher doesn't object.
            If publisher doesn't object - get them from publisher. If publisher works over Steam, then its Steam packages.
            Or I am misinterpreting something?..

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            • #7
              Originally posted by shmerl View Post
              "Free" but not DRM-free. Valve should start getting rid of DRM.
              Quit bitching and buy elsewhere, GOL lists if a game is available DRM free http://www.gamingonlinux.com/sales/

              Fact is Valve's DRM is actually quite agreeable unlike everyone else's. On top of that they are positioned to never go out of buisness, half of all PC game sales are through Steam, which has 75 million active users and they are making a Linux based console to carve out a section of the console market as well.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by brosis View Post
                Its up to publisher of game to decide, whether its DRM-free or DRMed. What has Valve to do with it?...
                We're only talking about Valve games here (L4D, Half-Life, CS...), not every game on Steam.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kivada View Post
                  Quit bitching and buy elsewhere, GOL lists if a game is available DRM free http://www.gamingonlinux.com/sales/
                  Do you know any other sites similar to GamingOnLinux?
                  Not an outdated catalog of junk+free and good+payware, but actually with Linux gaming community that builds upon actuality and involvement?

                  Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View Post
                  We're only talking about Valve games here (L4D, Half-Life, CS...), not every game on Steam.
                  Yet, its their right as a publisher to decide which distribution way they prefer...
                  I agree it'd be cool to see current free to play games packaged outside of Steam as .deb or similar, but I guess they refuse primary because they use them as an attraction to the Steam platform.
                  Last edited by brosis; 01-22-2014, 03:01 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by brosis View Post
                    Its up to publisher of game to decide, whether its DRM-free or DRMed. What has Valve to do with it?..

                    Also, Valve has already, for a long time, provided "Reviewer Access" or "Press Access" - that is access to ALL Steam games for reviewers, platform developers, publishers.
                    It comes very logical why they do that. It is very valuable and will push stability, review count and finally user base.

                    Clearly, this access is NOT for those who seek to just play games.
                    Um, Valve is both the developer and the publisher. Valve is the company that made and maintains Steam. Therefore, Valve is the publisher of both their own games released through Steam, and the games others publishers/developers sell through Steam. They are very permissive with other developers on how those developers wish to sell their games on their platform. If a developer wishes to sell a game that is DRM-free, they may do so. If they want to sell their game with Steam DRM + Additional DRM (Ubisoft mainly), they are free to do so.

                    Honestly, DRM-free is nonsense as you lose all the wonderful benefits of Steamworks and revert back to an older, colder era of gaming -- minus the CD keys.
                    Last edited by mmstick; 01-22-2014, 03:19 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by brosis View Post
                      Do you know any other sites similar to GamingOnLinux?
                      Not an outdated catalog of junk+free and good+payware, but actually with Linux gaming community that builds upon actuality and involvement?


                      Yet, its their right as a publisher to decide which distribution way they prefer...
                      I agree it'd be cool to see current free to play games packaged outside of Steam as .deb or similar, but I guess they refuse primary because they use them as an attraction to the Steam platform.
                      https://steamlug.org/ - http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamlug is probably what you are looking for, their podcast is quite good and they regularly interview game devs.

                      Most F2P games are MMOs and are in fact Pay2Win.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by brosis View Post
                        If publisher doesn't object - get them from publisher. If publisher works over Steam, then its Steam packages.
                        Or I am misinterpreting something?..
                        I said simply - Steam doesn't offer DRM free distribution even when developers don't object, so the argument that it's "up to developers" is false in the context of Steam being DRMed.

                        Originally posted by Kivada View Post
                        Fact is Valve's DRM is actually quite agreeable unlike everyone else's.
                        No DRM should ever be agreeable.

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                        • #13
                          Hah, I do wonder whether many Debian developers will make use of the offer. Steam and its DRM is rather far away from the Debian guidelines, and those developing Debian are probably not very interested in supporting proprietary, DRM'ed software, even if it's provided to them as freeware.

                          Originally posted by mmstick View Post
                          Um, Valve is both the developer and the publisher. Valve is the company that made and maintains Steam. Therefore, Valve is the publisher of both their own games released through Steam, and the games others publishers/developers sell through Steam.
                          Exactly that's why they have the power to release their own games DRM-free. But they don't. Quite the opposite, they *added* DRM to games like Half-Life, which initially didn't have any. So Valve clearly endorses DRM. And no, the "benefits" of Steam integration are absolutely not worth it. Especially since DRM is no part of those benefits, they could exist much better if they used a FOSS framework for that.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mmstick View Post
                            Honestly, DRM-free is nonsense as you lose all the wonderful benefits of Steamworks and revert back to an older, colder era of gaming -- minus the CD keys.
                            No, Steamworks is nonsense, because it locks the developer into one distributor. It's not better than any other type of lock-in (such as Windows API or DirectX for example).

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                            • #15
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                              And here is where the work on software from the Debian developers stops... At least for a week...
                              This will definitely impact the productivity of those that accept the offer

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