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  • #31
    Originally posted by iniudan View Post
    The 1TB is because it is an installation from a system image, basically the system image for hardware in the Steam Machine Prototype, has Clonezilla cannot image a larger disk on a smaller one, at least last time I used it, even if plenty of free room. Has for the 500GB, games are kind of not the smallest software when it come to size, so you recommend a decent enough size to system builder.
    Ars Techina installed SteamOS using the 2.2GB zip extracted to USB pen in a 500GB HDD....final result ? 406GB Still free

    That's enough for from 20 to 50 AAA titles.

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    • #32
      ...also...it seems that we DON'T NEED UEFI to install SteamOS !!!

      Ars Technica article provides this link:

      http://www.reddit.com/r/SteamOS/comm..._with_steamos/

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      • #33
        Originally posted by intellivision View Post
        And it uses sysvinit, nothing surprising there.
        Which is enough for gaming console, but not enough for serious work.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by kraftman View Post
          Which is enough for gaming console, but not enough for serious work.
          LOL, i'm not sure that Debian and Slackware users agree with you

          FWIW, i use Slackware since i started to use Linux....Slackware 8.0 at that time....
          I also use Debian and Mint (XFCE edition).

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          • #35
            Originally posted by kraftman View Post
            Which is enough for gaming console, but not enough for serious work.
            Oh please, sysvinit has been doing "serious work" for a couple of decades. In fact to get "serious work" done many times sysvinit emulation is required by other init systems.

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            • #36
              I'm sad for RedHat/Fedora

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Andrecorreia View Post
                its a normal linux distro what the point? none
                Sure, it's debian, a 'normal linux distro' (whatever that means!), but i think you will find throughout their repo/packages that they have additional patchwork for XYZ software / keeping their own deltas and I would assume in Steamboxes that ship - the OS will be tuned for the H/W, meaning - if you go and install debian on the same H/W and run steam - you probably will miss out on a number of optimizations, fixes, etc....

                So while you do not see the point, there IS one.

                It's no different than the Muse Research Receptor; http://www.museresearch.com/products/index.php- which is based on Fedora/RedHat. Sure, you could say that since those products are built on Redhat 'it's just a normal linux distro' - but that isn't really correct and trying to run their software on a non-muse system probably would run like junk, if it ran at all...

                or like the MISA tri-bass (or Kitara before that) that uses Gentoo as a base; http://misa-digital.myshopify.com/

                I mean what were you expecting from XYZ company - LFS or it's not good enough? lulz.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by q2dg View Post
                  I'm sad for RedHat/Fedora
                  why??? (you will find Redhat is in a lot more consumer/professional electronics markets than Debian).

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by ninez View Post
                    why??? (you will find Redhat is in a lot more consumer/professional electronics markets than Debian).
                    Because it's a(nother) lost chance to extend its "way of run" (which I personally prefer over Debian' style)
                    Maybe RedHat is in more consumer/professional electronics markets than Debian (I don't know), but it's losing push-up in server market...well, we'll see
                    Last edited by q2dg; 12-14-2013, 06:10 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by q2dg View Post
                      Because it's a(nother) lost chance to extend its "way of run" (which I personally prefer over Debian' style)
                      Maybe RedHat is in more consumer/professional electronics markets than Debian (I don't know), but it's losing push-up in server market...well, we'll see
                      You and me both (prefer redhat over debian style...although, i prefer Archlinux over both of them). Yeah, i guess i agree, it is a bit of a missed opportunity for them, but not the end of the world either.... I'm not convinced Redhat is _really_ losing any significant ground. - In 2012 Redhat reported $1.13 billion dollars [USD], as it's annual revenue.... and that isn't even getting into the software/projects they drive/manage, companies they work with, etc. ~ so while, this may be a missed opportunity, i don't think it's that big of a deal.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by AJSB View Post
                        LOL, i'm not sure that Debian and Slackware users agree with you

                        FWIW, i use Slackware since i started to use Linux....Slackware 8.0 at that time....
                        I also use Debian and Mint (XFCE edition).
                        Yes, you're right. I should rather say systemd makes administrating your system easier and gives you much more control. There's no reason to use old sysvint instead systemd or upstart.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                          Yes, you're right. I should rather say systemd makes administrating your system easier and gives you much more control. There's no reason to use old sysvint instead systemd or upstart.
                          Except that sysvinit is tried and true and well supported and well documented. Al ot Systemd implementations still have a lot of papercuts to overcome (like shutting down the network connection before NFS shares are unmounted for example). You also have to keep in mind that even through SteamOS is "hacker friendly" it is still targeted to towards a non-technical audience and as such the "administration" side of the equation is only a real concern to Valve and if they are comfortable with sysvinit then it really doesn't matter.

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                          • #43
                            http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20131209#qa

                            http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...246#post379246

                            Ubuntu is a copyrighted product, as is Debian.
                            So too are Slackware and Fedora.

                            Interesting thing to point out is you can grep ubuntu from the Android sources, v2.2.

                            Valve made the right move.

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                            • #44
                              Really great, looking forward to trying it. Based on Debian directly is also a great decision!

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