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  • Valve Shows Off Steam Machines Prototype

    Phoronix: Valve Shows Off Steam Machines Prototype

    Valve has begun showing off their Steam Machines Linux-based gaming console prototypes...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUwMzc

  • #2
    The best thing is that SteamOS will not be based on Ubuntu.

    "As promised, the OS is built on Linux (not based on Ubuntu, we're told, but entirely custom), though you'd never know it as the only interactive layer is all Steam."

    Source: http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/04/v...=rss_truncated

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    • #3
      Looking good

      The timing is peculiar. While we'll get good news in January, I'm kind of expecting their bigger partners to not make any rollouts until Q3.

      My reasoning is, if I were a partner I wouldn't want to lock-in on a hardware spec now... just behind the new MS/Sony consoles... and compete for scraps in a post-Xmas wasteland. I think we'll hear a lot of plans, then a big launch later, when the hardware specs can be set to be somewhat better or produced cheaper than the established players.

      Of course, partners could update their specs by releasing multiple models during the first year, at some risk of customer confusion.

      Whatever happens, it's going to be an interesting year.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 3vi1 View Post
        The timing is peculiar. While we'll get good news in January, I'm kind of expecting their bigger partners to not make any rollouts until Q3.

        My reasoning is, if I were a partner I wouldn't want to lock-in on a hardware spec now... just behind the new MS/Sony consoles... and compete for scraps in a post-Xmas wasteland. I think we'll hear a lot of plans, then a big launch later, when the hardware specs can be set to be somewhat better or produced cheaper than the established players.

        Of course, partners could update their specs by releasing multiple models during the first year, at some risk of customer confusion.

        Whatever happens, it's going to be an interesting year.
        Year of the Linux gaming PC disguised as a console! So the year of the Linux desktop has to wait yet again.

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        • #5
          However, we are not planning support for spreadsheets
          So it is not a fully-fledged operating system where I can install everything.
          However I should still be able to install e.g. Fedora as a second operating system, right? I just hope that it will be possible to achieve the same gaming experience on a regular Linux distribution and that there aren't any important features that are exclusively available for the steam OS.

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          • #6
            They also said that not only will they show retail Steam Machines at CES 2014 in early January, but also partners will announce their Linux game ports at the event, so that's why it has been quite on that front.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
              The best thing is that SteamOS will not be based on Ubuntu.
              I couldn't care less about which Distro it's based on. It's far more important that it works (and that it uses Linux by default)

              Originally posted by Maxjen View Post
              So it is not a fully-fledged operating system where I can install everything.
              However I should still be able to install e.g. Fedora as a second operating system, right? I just hope that it will be possible to achieve the same gaming experience on a regular Linux distribution and that there aren't any important features that are exclusively available for the steam OS.
              Uhmm why not just get a regular PC instead? The Steambox is just a PC with an OS optimized for TVs and game controllers.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
                The best thing is that SteamOS will not be based on Ubuntu.

                "As promised, the OS is built on Linux (not based on Ubuntu, we're told, but entirely custom), though you'd never know it as the only interactive layer is all Steam."

                Source: http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/04/v...=rss_truncated

                Ubuntu it is the only distro supported and probably will be the "developer kit" for Steam Machine games. So don't expect a distro very different of Ubuntu.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Maxjen View Post
                  So it is not a fully-fledged operating system where I can install everything.
                  However I should still be able to install e.g. Fedora as a second operating system, right? I just hope that it will be possible to achieve the same gaming experience on a regular Linux distribution and that there aren't any important features that are exclusively available for the steam OS.
                  Uhmm why not just get a regular PC instead? A Steambox is nothing more than a regular PC with an OS optimized for TVs an controller input.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Maxjen View Post
                    So it is not a fully-fledged operating system where I can install everything.
                    However I should still be able to install e.g. Fedora as a second operating system, right? I just hope that it will be possible to achieve the same gaming experience on a regular Linux distribution and that there aren't any important features that are exclusively available for the steam OS.
                    If we can get a terminal, root, a text editor and a way to fetch file you can pretty much install anything, this is Linux remember. Worse case scenario, you have to mount the SteamOS partition in an other linux distro to put in some userland functionality that will let you hack away directly in SteamOS.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Maxjen View Post
                      So it is not a fully-fledged operating system where I can install everything.
                      However I should still be able to install e.g. Fedora as a second operating system, right? I just hope that it will be possible to achieve the same gaming experience on a regular Linux distribution and that there aren't any important features that are exclusively available for the steam OS.
                      I think their purpose behind SteamOS is to be the reference platform for gaming, so Valve will only take care of the gaming part and will leave it to other distros to get their distros compatible with that reference OS. Game developers will only need to make sure their games run on SteamOS and then it's other distro's responsibility to make sure their distros are compatible with SteamOS.
                      In other words, if you want a full desktop OS you won't need to use SteamOS itself, you'll instead need to install a distro that gets itself compatible with SteamOS in terms of both functionality and performance.

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                      • #12
                        I'm not sure they're going to get a lot of traction with this initiative. They sure are committed to it, however.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by marciocr View Post
                          Ubuntu it is the only distro supported and probably will be the "developer kit" for Steam Machine games. So don't expect a distro very different of Ubuntu.
                          Gabe has said that Steam OS will be completely open and hackable: "Users can alter or replace any part of the software or hardware they want." (http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/)

                          So, as long as the libraries/drivers etc are available for your architecture, you should be able to run it on any distro you please. I agree that the default distro will be Ubuntu-based, though.

                          That's my understanding anyhoo.

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                          • #14
                            A good start

                            Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
                            Year of the Linux gaming PC disguised as a console! So the year of the Linux desktop has to wait yet again.
                            It will probably be a good start. All games available on Steam OS will be available on the Linux desktop client as well Many that has been dual booingt to play games might soon se no need anymore either.

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                            • #15
                              wheres the streaming stuff?

                              one of the biggest selling points for me is the streaming support, so it is a bummer they are still talking about the boxes, what i really want to know right now is when THE SOFTWARE comes out.
                              they also had no major news about the controller (particularly they did not send out new videos to clear up what they do).


                              for other commenters i would like to clear up that SteamOS IS big picture mode (in front of an optimized blank canvas instead of your desktop). if you joined the steam beta you already can see the one-stop features such as networking, system info, controller and mic settings, sleep+shutdown, and even the streaming controls (that requires multi-login, which is not possible under the current system)
                              -as it appears to be described on the verge though is that you would have wipe the manufacturer-sent operating system for a normal desktop. however, after setting up the distro, auto-big picture and auto-login, you will not lose features available to plain steamOS

                              finally i hate the verge commenters, they dont like the controller because they are not bothered to look at the specs for a second, biggest comment is "no physical control".sure: grooved, dippled, vibrating pads are worse than a thumbstick, any tech-deprived person would say they both are not very physical, any bigger spread of the phrase and you would be arguing for the use of paintball guns.

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