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  • #16
    Originally posted by FourDMusic View Post
    Gabe has said that Steam OS will be completely open and hackable: "Users can alter or replace any part of the software or hardware they want." (http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/)

    So, as long as the libraries/drivers etc are available for your architecture, you should be able to run it on any distro you please. I agree that the default distro will be Ubuntu-based, though.

    That's my understanding anyhoo.
    If GabeN is going to be committed to the philosophy of hackability and alteration then I would assume at one point they would shift towards the open-source drivers. Once those stacks mature that is, sans Intel which pretty much has their drivers up to date.

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    • #17
      Valve says it's in active talks with streaming companies, and working with a variety of developers to develop their games for SteamOS
      So I wonder how likely it is, that this will mean Steam will be full of games that run on SteamOS, but not on regular Linux distros...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by sarmad View Post
        I think their purpose behind SteamOS is to be the reference platform for gaming, so Valve will only take care of the gaming part and will leave it to other distros to get their distros compatible with that reference OS. Game developers will only need to make sure their games run on SteamOS and then it's other distro's responsibility to make sure their distros are compatible with SteamOS.
        Yeah, and guess if regular distros will want to start implementing stuff just to remain compatible with SteamOS... no one is doing it for Canonical/Mir, why would they do it for Valve?

        I mean sure, if SteamOS gets developed openly in collaboration with the community (not evident so far), it could probably work, but if they just start doing things according to their own whims and expect everyone else to follow no matter whether it's practical for them to do so (a lá Canonical), then it's just going to be another incompatible platform, separate from the rest of the Linux ecosystem.

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        • #19
          I was expecting something fancier in the HW design for the box. The controller is cool.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
            I was expecting something fancier in the HW design for the box. The controller is cool.
            I actually read the articles from Engadget and The Verge, and in those articles, it is clearly stated that the box shown is just a reference design. It won't actually be commercially available. That said, I kinda liked it. What I'm really interested in is the SteamOS, what package manager it uses, if I can install a real file manager and desktop on it, all that sort of thing. I also want pricing and availability of the Steam controller as well.

            All of this means nothing without the games to back it up though, so I'm really interested in what they say come January.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by dee. View Post
              Yeah, and guess if regular distros will want to start implementing stuff just to remain compatible with SteamOS... no one is doing it for Canonical/Mir, why would they do it for Valve?

              I mean sure, if SteamOS gets developed openly in collaboration with the community (not evident so far), it could probably work, but if they just start doing things according to their own whims and expect everyone else to follow no matter whether it's practical for them to do so (a lá Canonical), then it's just going to be another incompatible platform, separate from the rest of the Linux ecosystem.
              I think the compatibility requirements will be little more than support for steam, and the game controller, which I assume will be open source, or at least, freely available. Thus, I doubt that compatibility will be a massive issue. Valve could just maintain a repository which has all the stuff needed, which would reduce the fuss.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by dee. View Post
                Yeah, and guess if regular distros will want to start implementing stuff just to remain compatible with SteamOS... no one is doing it for Canonical/Mir, why would they do it for Valve?

                I mean sure, if SteamOS gets developed openly in collaboration with the community (not evident so far), it could probably work, but if they just start doing things according to their own whims and expect everyone else to follow no matter whether it's practical for them to do so (a lá Canonical), then it's just going to be another incompatible platform, separate from the rest of the Linux ecosystem.
                That remains to be seen. Valve already mentioned that there won't be any exclusive games to SteamOS and they mentioned that they want their games to run on as many platforms as possible, so naturally it means they need to use standard components in SteamOS. Also, Valve already released their client to other Linux distros and already has a lot of people using it, so it's highly unlikely for them to render those clients obsolete. But I agree, if they started acting like Canonical it will just be another Android, a Linux that is not really Linux, but I personally doubt they will go that route.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by sarmad View Post
                  it will just be another Android, a Linux that is not really Linux
                  That's about the only way to make Linux acceptable to the masses.

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                  • #24
                    The gfx card placement is interesting in that SteamBox, the used hardware is standard, the board looks like an OEM model of ASRock Z87E-ITX and the cpu cooler is Zalman CNPS2X. From the specs a 27x84 mm sized cpu cooler can not be too quiet under full load but the case looks nice. My guess is that the firmware has different defaults for this system like legacy mode completely disabled and uefi in fast boot mode with usb / ps2 keyboard init and fully enabled powersave modes. Generic ASRock boards do not really shine in that areas.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by johnc View Post
                      That's about the only way to make Linux acceptable to the masses.
                      Intel, Samsung and Jolla beg to differ.

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                      • #26
                        Damn... that box looks even better than my own bend and welded box... curious about the cooling efficiency.

                        SteamOS gets interesting when we can get our hands on the code, to test and hack

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