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    Phoronix: Valve Publishes October Steam Hardware Survey

    Valve has released their latest hardware/software survey statistics for the following month. Is Linux back above a 1% market-share for gamers?..

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUwMDc

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    I would not worry, firstly most top rated games still are windows only, people installed steam under linux and went back to their windows to play the games that don't run under Linux. Personally I have my uber machine and another that has a 10-5800k and a AMD HD6770, and I can play the Linux games on it, but still prefer my main machine. Most people still don't like dual booting, I know I don't.

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    • #3
      Gaming won't bring popularity and/or bigger usage share to Linux. Gaming is not the problem.

      The problem is, if I ask now, here, which OS I should use instead of Windows 7 the following will happen:

      A: - Choose Fedora!!!
      B: - No Fedora is too buggy! Choose Arch!
      C: - No Arch is too hard for a beginner! Choose Mint!
      D: - No Mint is not supported well. Choose Ubuntu!
      E: - Ubuntu? Canonical is the devil and spying on you.

      So I/He/She will end up to return to Windows. So simple.

      Personally when I was trying to search the web for the best Linux alternative to Windows, I was bumping on articles that proposed distros based on politics (avoid Ubuntu no matter what) and I was lucky to try Ubuntu before I quit. I didn't know who is Shuttleworth, nor Torvalds, nor GNU, nor Red Hat but everyone is proposing to the masses what he prefers. No "A" proposal to make people enter to this world.

      If you enter Linux you will never go back. But community is SO sort-sighted.
      Last edited by verde; 11-01-2013, 02:08 PM.

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      • #4
        That is expected. There was no change in the Linux offering so naturally there wouldn't be a change in usage. Usage statistics won't be much meaningful until SteamBoxes are available to consumers.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by verde View Post
          Gaming won't bring popularity and/or bigger usage share to Linux. Gaming is not the problem.

          The problem is, if I ask now, here, which OS I should use instead of Windows 7 the following will happen:

          A: - Choose Fedora!!!
          B: - No Fedora is too buggy! Choose Arch!
          C: - No Arch is too hard for a beginner! Choose Mint!
          D: - No Mint is not supported well. Choose Ubuntu!
          E: - Ubuntu? Canonical is the devil and spying on you.

          So I/He/She will end up to return to Windows. So simple.

          Personally when I was trying to search the web for the best Linux alternative to Windows, I was bumping on articles that proposed distros based on politics (avoid Ubuntu no matter what) and I was lucky to try Ubuntu before I quit. I didn't know who is Shuttleworth, nor Torvalds, nor GNU, nor Red Hat.

          Yeah, absolutely. Thank goodness when I switched to GNU/Linux 5.5 years ago there wasn't all this stupid hate towards Ubuntu, so no biased articles stopped me from getting it right the first time. I only tried other distros afterwards, and I always got back to Ubuntu. It's got its flaws, but for me it's the best distro around. I'm hoping for SteamOS to be good too and for the Steam client to continue being great on Ubuntu and the other distros.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sarmad View Post
            That is expected. There was no change in the Linux offering so naturally there wouldn't be a change in usage. Usage statistics won't be much meaningful until SteamBoxes are available to consumers.
            Can we stop calling them "SteamBoxes", as if Valve were cloning Microsoft? They're Steam Machines, which is much more awesome. =)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by verde View Post
              Gaming won't bring popularity and/or bigger usage share to Linux. Gaming is not the problem.

              The problem is, if I ask now, here, which OS I should use instead of Windows 7 the following will happen:

              A: - Choose Fedora!!!
              B: - No Fedora is too buggy! Choose Arch!
              C: - No Arch is too hard for a beginner! Choose Mint!
              D: - No Mint is not supported well. Choose Ubuntu!
              E: - Ubuntu? Canonical is the devil and spying on you.

              So I/He/She will end up to return to Windows. So simple.

              Personally when I was trying to search the web for the best Linux alternative to Windows, I was bumping on articles that proposed distros based on politics (avoid Ubuntu no matter what) and I was lucky to try Ubuntu before I quit. I didn't know who is Shuttleworth, nor Torvalds, nor GNU, nor Red Hat but everyone is proposing to the masses what he prefers. No "A" proposal to make people enter to this world.

              If you enter Linux you will never go back. But community is SO sort-sighted.
              That is why it will be steamOS as being the most popular in the long run. It will be the gamers OS, those other choices will not even be considered when it comes to the steam machine. SteamOS in the long run will have way more users then all the distros combined. You will see HP steam machine, Dell steam machine, Lenovo steam machine and probably many others.

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              • #8
                Linux is at 1.78% not much has changed since the past year. I remeber it was a bit closer to 2% at one point.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by vaudevillian View Post
                  That is why it will be steamOS as being the most popular in the long run. It will be the gamers OS, those other choices will not even be considered when it comes to the steam machine. SteamOS in the long run will have way more users then all the distros combined. You will see HP steam machine, Dell steam machine, Lenovo steam machine and probably many others.
                  You still don't know the details of SteamOS. Wait until it's released for the storm of hatred to begin.
                  That said, I agree that SteamOS will likely grab the biggest share in the long run.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
                    Linux is at 1.78% not much has changed since the past year. I remeber it was a bit closer to 2% at one point.
                    Thats in part because the Team Fortress 2 Tux object than was avaiable to obtain if steam was installed using linux, so, probably a lot of wubi installations and virtual machines existed in that time. Just a possibility. Or maybe they try ubuntu and they did not like it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by verde View Post
                      Gaming won't bring popularity and/or bigger usage share to Linux. Gaming is not the problem.

                      The problem is, if I ask now, here, which OS I should use instead of Windows 7 the following will happen:

                      A: - Choose Fedora!!!
                      B: - No Fedora is too buggy! Choose Arch!
                      C: - No Arch is too hard for a beginner! Choose Mint!
                      D: - No Mint is not supported well. Choose Ubuntu!
                      E: - Ubuntu? Canonical is the devil and spying on you.

                      So I/He/She will end up to return to Windows. So simple.

                      Personally when I was trying to search the web for the best Linux alternative to Windows, I was bumping on articles that proposed distros based on politics (avoid Ubuntu no matter what) and I was lucky to try Ubuntu before I quit. I didn't know who is Shuttleworth, nor Torvalds, nor GNU, nor Red Hat but everyone is proposing to the masses what he prefers. No "A" proposal to make people enter to this world.

                      If you enter Linux you will never go back. But community is SO sort-sighted.
                      This is wrong. The masses DO NOT install their own OS, only a limited amount of techies. And is even more complicated now thanks to UEFI stuff.

                      They buy Hardware and use what's preinstalled. And that's why Valve is making Steam machines.

                      Is why google has android and chromebooks.

                      And ubuntu is going to be phones/tablets which should boost awareness and also it comes already preinstalled in system76 laptops, Alienware X51 and Dell and HP are expanding Ubuntu Retail Presence in China.

                      http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/09/d...loaded-laptops

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by verde View Post
                        Gaming won't bring popularity and/or bigger usage share to Linux. Gaming is not the problem.

                        The problem is, if I ask now, here, which OS I should use instead of Windows 7 the following will happen:

                        A: - Choose Fedora!!!
                        B: - No Fedora is too buggy! Choose Arch!
                        C: - No Arch is too hard for a beginner! Choose Mint!
                        D: - No Mint is not supported well. Choose Ubuntu!
                        E: - Ubuntu? Canonical is the devil and spying on you.

                        So I/He/She will end up to return to Windows. So simple.

                        Personally when I was trying to search the web for the best Linux alternative to Windows, I was bumping on articles that proposed distros based on politics (avoid Ubuntu no matter what) and I was lucky to try Ubuntu before I quit. I didn't know who is Shuttleworth, nor Torvalds, nor GNU, nor Red Hat but everyone is proposing to the masses what he prefers. No "A" proposal to make people enter to this world.

                        If you enter Linux you will never go back. But community is SO sort-sighted.
                        Well, that's nice, but gaming is the problem. I keep Windows only for games, and I know at least 20 people who do. And looking around the internet I do not think we're that unique.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by borsook View Post
                          Well, that's nice, but gaming is the problem. I keep Windows only for games, and I know at least 20 people who do. And looking around the internet I do not think we're that unique.
                          Same here I run FAH and game in 3D so I boot Windows.. I don't dual-boot these days too much hassle with UEFI, my favorite distro Mageia is still struggling with it last I looked in the forums so I run it virtually for now.
                          That said only folding is keeping me from making Linux my everyday desktop.
                          Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
                          Ben Franklin 1755

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nll_a View Post
                            Can we stop calling them "SteamBoxes", as if Valve were cloning Microsoft? They're Steam Machines, which is much more awesome. =)
                            GabeCubes.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by madjr View Post
                              This is wrong. The masses DO NOT install their own OS, only a limited amount of techies. And is even more complicated now thanks to UEFI stuff.

                              They buy Hardware and use what's preinstalled. And that's why Valve is making Steam machines.

                              Is why google has android and chromebooks.
                              This, exactly. Which is also why we should hope Intel's plan for Tizen Ultrabooks succeeds, as it'd bring a real desktop Linux OS (not a spyware-cloudtoy, not a gaming-media-center-console-OS, but a real general purpose desktop) to the masses, to the reach of everyday consumers who buy their computers from the same place they buy their groceries.

                              And ubuntu is going to be phones/tablets which should boost awareness and also it comes already preinstalled in system76 laptops, Alienware X51 and Dell and HP are expanding Ubuntu Retail Presence in China.
                              System76 is small beans, they've been making ubuntu machines for years, it hasn't caused a huge success for the Linux desktop and will not likely influence things much further. Dell is offering ubuntu-based computers on China markets only (plus one single developer laptop for other markets, hidden away in their online store where you have to know about it to find it). Apart from the chinese, these Ubuntu machines aren't very likely to make a huge impact.

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