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  • Steam Machines Prototypes: Intel CPU, NVIDIA GPU

    Phoronix: Steam Machines Prototypes: Intel CPU, NVIDIA GPU

    After last week announcing Steam Machines as the Valve-backed Steam "living room consoles" (a.k.a. Steam Box) powered by the Linux SteamOS, today Valve has released the prototype hardware details that they will be shipping to 300 beta testers...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQ3NzQ

  • #2
    The low end among these machines will probably beat the PS4 on all ends. The high end one will blow it out of the water. Can't wait.

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    • #3
      No real surprises there, this combo does offer the best possible performance and stability for games on Linux. I guess Nvidia is happy to be included in at least ONE tv console.
      Though, I do wonder why they are going with such high-end boxes when there's little doubt that the vast majority of customers will be wanting something <$500, so testing the lower boundaries on acceptable perfromance seems more worthwhile...

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      • #4
        No one is surprised by this choice. AMD could've had this one in the bag with their APUs if they just kicked themselves more in the ass when it comes to their drivers.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by xeekei View Post
          No one is surprised by this choice. AMD could've had this one in the bag with their APUs if they just kicked themselves more in the ass when it comes to their drivers.
          exactly, their upcoming apu's are supposed to be getting 20% cpu improvement, they could stick a highend gpu on the chip too and we would have a terrific chip. AMD's lack of funds results in lower quality linux drivers though.

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          • #6
            Great. A bloated PC with super-expensive hardware - for what?. Yes, this is sooo killing the PS4 :P

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            • #7
              So, with these machines having two GPUs (intel + nVidia), can games make use of this somehow? i.e. can the two GPUs work together to render a single frame? I'm talking Linux software wise. Does Linux currently support such thing?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sarmad View Post
                The low end among these machines will probably beat the PS4 on all ends. The high end one will blow it out of the water. Can't wait.
                If I look on this Steam Machine specs, it looks not like a usual game console, but rather like a gaming PC. I'm hoping the steam controller will work on standard gaming PC's too, because I'm not willing to replace my PC yet!
                Last edited by Fenrin; 10-04-2013, 04:35 PM.

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                • #9
                  Actually this was smart move from Valve at this point.

                  The messages they're giving are the following:

                  1- We'll kick console's arse, so port all your big AAA stuff over.

                  2- NVIDIA you better get your Sh!t together and give A+ support for Linux (and seems they have begun !). And YO , AMD/ATI, we not going to give you the whole gaming monopoly, so if you get your Sh!t together too and behave we'll start promoting you soon. Everyone must support linux!

                  3- We're waiting a bit till parts start lowering costs so we can give you a mid range pc for those looking for something mid range like consoles. Consoles = the mid range crowd. No point doing that this year since parts prices will get lower soon enough.
                  Last edited by madjr; 10-04-2013, 04:55 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sarmad View Post
                    So, with these machines having two GPUs (intel + nVidia), can games make use of this somehow? i.e. can the two GPUs work together to render a single frame? I'm talking Linux software wise. Does Linux currently support such thing?
                    Since they are different vendors I'm 99% sure they can't. I am wondering though if they can squeeze a tiny bit more performance out of this by only rendering on the discrete GPU and using the iGPU to display. I know that work was either upcoming or merged.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Detructor
                      this is the first, but probably not the last time I'll write this: Valve, fuck you. You fuckin' fuck.


                      Could've used some nice working hardware, but nooo it's that 'oh we got some math calculation errors and some interfaces aren't working but our customers won't care'-fucktard-company that will give the processor and the 'oh, we write so bad source code that we don't want to open source it'-GPU producer.

                      Fuckheads.
                      I think someone needs a time out. It should have been obvious what Valve was going to use in their official Steam Machines considering it was greatly hinted in the past that they were using NVIDIA GPUs and NVIDIA engineers were working at Valve to develop SteamOS/Steam Machines.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mmstick View Post
                        I think someone needs a time out. It should have been obvious what Valve was going to use in their official Steam Machines considering it was greatly hinted in the past that they were using NVIDIA GPUs and NVIDIA engineers were working at Valve to develop SteamOS/Steam Machines.
                        Exactly.

                        It was super OBVIOUS once they started giving the Nouveau team docs and support. $ talks.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Detructor
                          this is the first, but probably not the last time I'll write this: Valve, fuck you. You fuckin' fuck.


                          Could've used some nice working hardware, but nooo it's that 'oh we got some math calculation errors and some interfaces aren't working but our customers won't care'-fucktard-company that will give the processor and the 'oh, we write so bad source code that we don't want to open source it'-GPU producer.

                          Fuckheads.
                          Ok so I'll bite: omg u are so rite!! Better go with the eternal beta eternal buggy amd fglrx drivers? Or maybe lets go opensource and prove to all the gamers out there how linux is infinitely slower.

                          Great plan! I wish you are the CEO of something.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bathroom Humor View Post
                            No real surprises there, this combo does offer the best possible performance and stability for games on Linux. I guess Nvidia is happy to be included in at least ONE tv console.
                            Though, I do wonder why they are going with such high-end boxes when there's little doubt that the vast majority of customers will be wanting something <$500, so testing the lower boundaries on acceptable perfromance seems more worthwhile...
                            There will be all kinds of customers and they seem to have a nice variety...

                            Well, there will some prototypes with i3 and GTX660....could those be the "lower end" pointing to a price tag of 500 USD ? NewEgg lists GTX660(DDR52GB) at $200...but Nvidia can make Valve a better deal for sure...wonder what will be i3 version and what will be the deal with Intel....Intel have a nice chance to enter in console market and i'm sure that they can make a good deal with Valve/whoever_build_theses_SBs_in_large_scale ...

                            They also selected a SSHD instead of a pure SSD...they got a massive storage (compared with PS4/Xbone) and performance w/ acceptable price.

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                            • #15
                              I love AMD APUs...in a Window$ machine.

                              In Linux, nothing can beat Nvidia (and Intel)....and because i only care about performance (in special when there such a difference between OSS drivers and blobs for now) i'm OK with their decisions and i can't see how some get so surprised/upset with Valve choices !

                              Any other decision would be a suicide from Valve making them the joke of the Year.

                              No, Valve, doesn't work that way...they want to succeed and not flop

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