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    Phoronix: Valve Announces "Steam Machines"

    After Valve announced SteamOS on Monday as their highly-optimized Linux distribution for gaming, today they announced the first "Steam Machine", a.k.a. their SteamOS-powered console for the living room...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQ2ODU

  • #2
    Wow. Again, no actual info on anything.
    Starting to sound like we'd have to rename Vapourware to "Steamware".

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    • #3
      meh

      too much hype, not enough product

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      • #4
        Well, at least we know there will be prototype this year.

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        • #5
          Actually there is lots of info there ...like to be able to change OS, use standard software (the reference to even control robots implies it), OS can be downloaded (including the SOURCE CODE...but of course that doesn't include the critical parts of Steam client ) and we can make our own SteamOs boxes....it also answers that no matter seems optimized for gamepads, we can also use mouse+keyboard for playing games.

          The question that it's not answered and i would love to know is if SteamOS only be available to download after 1st shipping Steambox model starts to ship or if its available right at same time than these 300 prototypes ship so any one outside this 300 prototypes can start to checkout this SteamOS and/or make our own SteamBoxes "right now", i.e. still this year.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by not.sure View Post
            Wow. Again, no actual info on anything.
            Starting to sound like we'd have to rename Vapourware to "Steamware".
            I like your joke. Steam really is water vapor, so it definitely fits.

            But on a more serious note, I think it is interesting how much excitement Linux users have exhibited in response to these announcements. Usually we treat announcements not accompanied by substance (code, specs, etc.) as publicity stunts. I think our willingness to give Valve a pass shows how great our hopes are for what Valve is promising to do..

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            • #7
              Yeah, we can usually count on valve to finish projects once they've started them, and not just pretend that the project doesn't exist, so calling this "vaporware" is very unfair.

              But in all seriousness, this is an exciting time to be a Linux fanboy, and I'll be sitting on the sidelines with popcorn at the ready.
              Last edited by cbgoding; 09-25-2013, 01:58 PM.

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              • #8
                Beyond the Steambox

                What's interrest me here, is not really the Steambox it self.
                But through the creation of the "Steam Machine" label, it brings a reference platform for a Linux Gaming Machine, so that Game Publishers can now have a clear target for Linux (and not x distributions) and can bring real support for it (just like a XBox / PS / Wii / Window)
                Also SteamOS is going to be shipped with the machines (and not windows) so it can be widespread amonst the mere mortals who don't know how to install Linux on their computers, so manufacturers would be more interrested in drivers for Linux, so the whole Linux world could benifit (SteamOS is after all a Linux with steam on top of it)

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                • #9
                  If Friday's announcement doesn't include a game I'm going to yawn at the whole week's events.

                  So far we haven't learned anything that hasn't already been known for the past year.

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                  • #10
                    So now we know that the third announcement is a controller

                    Am I going to be using a mouse and a keyboard in the living-room?
                    If you want. But Steam and SteamOS work well with gamepads, too. Stay tuned, though - we have some more to say very soon on the topic of input.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pajn View Post
                      So now we know that the third announcement is a controller
                      No, we don't KNOW any such thing. Soon could be before Friday or after Friday. There are plenty of things they mention we will get to know soon(specs, pricing info, etc). Sure controller info on Friday is one likely possibility. But it is just that a possibility.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kristian Joensen View Post
                        No, we don't KNOW any such thing. Soon could be before Friday or after Friday. There are plenty of things they mention we will get to know soon(specs, pricing info, etc). Sure controller info on Friday is one likely possibility. But it is just that a possibility.
                        The others are just "soon" controller is "very soon".

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                        • #13
                          aargh, I was hoping for more info, but here is the list of info we got from the announcement:
                          1- Steam machines are PCs, not consoles. You can build your own Steam machine and you can use a Valve steam machine as a regular PC.
                          2- You can use mouse/keyboard or game pads. So, again, it's still the PC you know.
                          3- Steam OS is open source. Not much info here, but it gives the indication that the amount of closed elements are minimal, at least, not more closed than a current Linux/Steam client configuration.
                          4- There will be multiple configurations.
                          5- At least some of those configurations are "powerful".
                          6- The release is next year, with prototypes coming out this year.

                          And here is what I'm guessing:
                          1- There will be Steam machines on the level of PS4 and XB1 with a similar, or lower, price points.
                          2- There will be Steam machines that will blow the PS4 out of the water in terms of power.
                          3- Steam machines will have Nvidia GPUs. Why do I think so? Because Nvidia made some statements earlier this year against consoles and that PCs are the way to go, which indicates that they could've had a deal with Valve. Nvidia also paid more attention to their Linux drivers lately and their surprise move few days ago to open their GPU documentations also points in this direction.

                          Overall, I think I'm gonna revert my decision to get a PS4. I might finally become a PC gamer.

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                          • #14
                            Friday will be about a controller because that is sure to be underwhelming to us tech news junkies(pessimism). I am hoping they drop a bomb on us and say HL3 confirmed with Source 2.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sarmad View Post
                              aargh, I was hoping for more info, but here is the list of info we got from the announcement:
                              1- Steam machines are PCs, not consoles. You can build your own Steam machine and you can use a Valve steam machine as a regular PC.
                              2- You can use mouse/keyboard or game pads. So, again, it's still the PC you know.
                              3- Steam OS is open source. Not much info here, but it gives the indication that the amount of closed elements are minimal, at least, not more closed than a current Linux/Steam client configuration.
                              4- There will be multiple configurations.
                              5- At least some of those configurations are "powerful".
                              6- The release is next year, with prototypes coming out this year.

                              And here is what I'm guessing:
                              1- There will be Steam machines on the level of PS4 and XB1 with a similar, or lower, price points.
                              2- There will be Steam machines that will blow the PS4 out of the water in terms of power.
                              3- Steam machines will have Nvidia GPUs. Why do I think so? Because Nvidia made some statements earlier this year against consoles and that PCs are the way to go, which indicates that they could've had a deal with Valve. Nvidia also paid more attention to their Linux drivers lately and their surprise move few days ago to open their GPU documentations also points in this direction.

                              Overall, I think I'm gonna revert my decision to get a PS4. I might finally become a PC gamer.
                              Why do you believe that Steam Machines will be performance-to-price competitive with the PS4 and XB1? Those consoles are being manufactured in massive scale. Do you really feel that the use of commodity hardware will be enough to overcome that advantage?
                              Last edited by Serge; 09-25-2013, 02:51 PM. Reason: unwanted emoticon

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