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    Phoronix: X3: Albion Prelude Released For Linux Gamers

    One month after the release of X3: Terran Conflict for Linux, Egosoft has now released X3: Albion Prelude...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM3MjQ

  • #2
    Would love it if it was a proper space/trade game and not an space-themed aquarium simulator. I always find space-themed aquarium simulators hard to take serious.

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    • #3
      Also

      I thought about buying the bundle steam had of these games but then I started reading about the uber-extreme learning curve. For a guy that likes Space games like SPAZ, X3 is definitely not for me lol. But I appreciate their effort in porting it.

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      • #4
        Steam only again? How annoying.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by shmerl View Post
          Steam only again? How annoying.
          You should get used to it now, or you're going to be really pissed off over the next few years.

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          • #6
            Why should I get used to it? I'm not going to use Steam until they drop their DRM for good. And why can't Egosoft use other distributors without DRM?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by shmerl View Post
              Why should I get used to it? I'm not going to use Steam until they drop their DRM for good. And why can't Egosoft use other distributors without DRM?
              X3 games inside Steam have no DRM. They let you play offline.

              And as for why you should get used to it - well, because Steam is an easy way to distribute on linux it's going to be the way everything is done going forward. If you want to keep being disappointed at every new game on linux for the next few years, you're welcome to do so, but you aren't going to be very happy.

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              • #8
                Steam client itself is DRM, thus I don't use it. It's not an "easy" way. Or let's phrase it differently - it could be an easy way, if not because of its DRM. For example you can't save the installer. Normal developers use DRM free channels (Humble Bundle, Desura and etc.). No need for some obtrusive Steam clients and etc.
                Last edited by shmerl; 05-17-2013, 02:30 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by shmerl View Post
                  Steam client itself is DRM, thus I don't use it.
                  So Steam with DRM turned off is still DRM? Isn't that like saying linux is DRM because it allows it to be run, even if you don't have it turned on?

                  For example you can't save the installer.
                  I'm trying to think why you'd even care. Can't you just copy the files after it's been installed? I don't think it does anything fancy.

                  Normal developers use DRM free channels (Humble Bundle, Desura and etc.).
                  LOL. I hate to break it to you, but "normal" developers are console only. Of the ones remaining, "normal" developers are windows only. Of the ones remaining, "normal" developers still don't support linux.

                  Of the ones that do, "normal" developers only used other channels like Desura because they were the only ones available. I wouldn't be surprised to see Humble Bundle start using Steam itself, as they already give away Steam keys. And most devs don't want to target multiple channels if they don't have to, so now that Steam is available most of them are going to switch to be Steam only.

                  No need for some obtrusive Steam clients and etc.
                  It's not obtrusive at all, but you're still missing the point. Need vs. want. Developers don't NEED Steam, they WANT it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                    Can't you just copy the files after it's been installed? I don't think it does anything fancy.
                    You can do that with X3:R. If anyone can confirm the same about X3:TC and AP, I might buy them.

                    Originally posted by carewolf
                    Would love it if it was a proper space/trade game and not an space-themed aquarium simulator. I always find space-themed aquarium simulators hard to take serious.
                    I agree, but most of the X series is actually fun. In any case, I'm keeping my eye on Pioneer, as it seems to be the only "proper" space trade/combat game (and it's FOSS too).
                    Last edited by Xipeos; 05-17-2013, 08:57 PM. Reason: Linkified

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                      X3 games inside Steam have no DRM. They let you play offline.

                      And as for why you should get used to it - well, because Steam is an easy way to distribute on linux it's going to be the way everything is done going forward. If you want to keep being disappointed at every new game on linux for the next few years, you're welcome to do so, but you aren't going to be very happy.
                      Ehmmm Steam supports offline mode that is nothing new or particular to the X3 games. It is still DRM since it only allows you to play on one machine at a time and requires you to have Steam running. So merely being able to play offline doesn't mean that a game on Steam is DRM free.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kristian Joensen View Post
                        Ehmmm Steam supports offline mode that is nothing new or particular to the X3 games. It is still DRM since it only allows you to play on one machine at a time and requires you to have Steam running. So merely being able to play offline doesn't mean that a game on Steam is DRM free.
                        You missed smitty3268's point. For X3:R, you can just copy the files (from ~/.steam/steam/SteamApps/common/X3\ -\ Reunion) and run the game from wherever without steam. You only need to suffer through steam's evil once (every update...); the game itself is DRM-free.
                        Last edited by Xipeos; 05-18-2013, 01:31 PM. Reason: un-rude-ified

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Xipeos View Post
                          You missed smitty3268's point. For X3:R, you can just copy the files (from ~/.steam/steam/SteamApps/common/X3\ -\ Reunion) and run the game from wherever without steam. You only need to suffer through steam's evil once (every update...); the game itself is DRM-free.
                          That is a completely different story, the only thing he based his claim of it being DRM free on was the ability to play it offline.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kristian Joensen View Post
                            It is still DRM since it only allows you to play on one machine at a time and requires you to have Steam running.
                            No, you don't. As i said, you can play completely offline, without Steam at all. You just need to download the no-steam patch from Egosoft's website. Steam is just a way to buy, download, and install the game, if you don't want any of the other bonus's that come from it.

                            http://www.egosoft.com/support/faq/f...hp?answer=2150
                            The NoSteam executable for X3: Albion Prelude Version allows you to play the game without having to run the Steam client. It can be downloaded from the Downloads page, as long as you have registered either X3: Terran Conflict or X3: Albion Prelude in your forum profile. To use it:

                            Download the NoSteam executable from the link provided above

                            Copy the executable to your X3TC Steam directory (by default C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\x3 terran conflict)

                            Start the game by doubleclicking on this executable


                            Note: We only recommend using this if you have particular difficulties running Steam. Solutions to most common problems with Steam are covered in our Steam FAQ section.

                            If you are using the NoSteam executable you won't be able to:

                            Patch your game – Patches are only provided through Steam

                            Play in "Dead-is-Dead" mode

                            Get Steam achievements

                            Use any other Steam online function


                            With the NoSteam executable it is technically possible to completely remove Steam from your system and still play the game. However, you should back up your Steam games before uninstalling Steam, otherwise all your Steam games will be uninstalled!
                            Last edited by smitty3268; 05-18-2013, 04:14 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Unfortunately you never know whether some Steam release has DRM or not (i.e. requiring you to run the Steam client in order to run the game). Therefore I simply avoid it outright, since I don't support those who endorse DRM. The only hope for DRM free Linux gaming can be GOG if they'll add such option (feel free to vote for it): http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/add...sions_of_games

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