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  • Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
    Nobody is asking you to emulate Crysis 1.

    Get FOSS games to the same graphical quality as Crysis 1 capable of running at Ultra with 16xMSAA on open drivers with an average fps of 60 and we shall see.
    What makes you think I'm a spokesperson for FOSS?

    I'm not. In fact - I am one of their biggest critics. I don't care about this issue ('open-source games being comparable to commercial') one way or another - it's a red herring.

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    • Originally posted by BO$$ View Post

      Really now. Go to the doctor. Before you do anything stupid like those two idiots in Boston.
      .
      Hey bubba - I can't help it if the socially backwards country you live in glorifies killing, glorifies torture, glorifies abuse and glorifies bombs. You reap what you sow. We don't have those problems over here in Europe for the most part (unless it happens to be Eastern-European marauding gangs and other 'import' products 'culturally enriching' society at large).

      What you are seeing there is the after effects of 20 years of ultra-violent movies/games/music and now the chickens are coming home to roost where people can't distinguish reality from fiction anymore and young people are more interested in 'violence' and 'torture' than they are about sex. Hell, how can they distinguish 'reality' from 'fiction' when pretty soon they will be walking around with Google Ass (errr.. 'Glass') strapped on their heads like some Borg idiot?

      That is America for you. You guys need to 'stop playing the victim' and realize that most of you shits are failing to take responsibility for the backwards way your country and the politicians/elite/businesses that OWN IT have been acting all over the world for the better part of a decade now. You are seeing the side effects of what happens when society as a whole doesn't give a shit about values (which is also why, unlike you, I care about being honest and about being a 'honest software developer' instead of some schmuck entrepreneur - I know where the corrupting process begins and where it ends).' The Romans went through this same period of social degeneration as well - you guys are following in their footsteps all too well. And you all know what happens in the end.

      Either hold your 'elite' accountable or go sit there, cry in a corner about how there are 'terrorists' and people doing harm to other people - while failing to realize your negligence and your apathy is partly to blame for that. You are letting them get away that shit - as did your parents - as did their friends - which is why you guys are in the situation you are in now. Too much SoCal 'peacock behavior' and too little 'working class solidarity' to give a shit about other people, the poor, charity, et al. You are part of that problem as a self-styled 'entrepreneur' which is one of the other reasons why I relish in attacking your kind and calling you out for what you are.
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      • If you don't like it then compete.... It's that simple.... The US is by far the number one producer of media. Create your own Movies, Music, Art, Games, Novels, etc, etc. If you think your way is better then proliferate it. Start producing and stop bitching.
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        • Originally posted by duby229 View Post
          If you don't like it then compete.... It's that simple.... The US is by far the number one producer of media. Create your own Movies, Music, Art, Games, Novels, etc, etc. If you think your way is better then proliferate it.
          Lulz - 'designed in California, made in China' more often than not - even Avatar 2 will be brought to you now by Beijing. So Hollywood is already giving you the finger as well. I'm a betting man - 7 out of 10 says more and more 'western 'game devs will be getting sacked over the years and replaced by Chinese automatons who will be able to 'produce' the game just the same - and without the middleman - the 'western entrepreneur' - entering into the mix as well. Your government is setting you 'bubble economy' enterpreneurs up for big failure - you idiots just don't realize it yet, just like the 'dotcom' idiots back in the late '90s didn't get it until it was too late.

          Seriously son - time to wake up and smell the coffee - you are no longer 'Number 1' in anything. And pathetic service level economies like games/movies/music are not going to help you 'retain' the number 1 spot. It takes REAL PHYSICAL PRODUCTION to get back to number one.

          The Chinese are doing just that. They will be eating your lunch in the foreseeable future - you just don't know it yet.

          Which is why it's doubly hilarious when I see these western 'entrepreneurs' thinking they're 'making it big' while they have to resort to China to get their shitty Kickstarted products (like an Ouya) actually assembled and built. What kind of an MBA moron do you have to be not to realize that if your country is not the sole proprietor of PHYSICAL PRODUCTION, that you are in danger of being 'TOPPLED OVERNIGHT' by the country that does?

          Your MBA degree is not worth the paper it's printed on if you can't see which way the wind is blowing - and the way the wind is blowing means you as a 'western entrepreneur' are not going to amount to 'jack shit' all - have fun with that 'lifestyle' after the bubble has burst - it won't be pretty - don't say you weren't warned.
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          • I hate to to be the one to tell you, but you don't know history very well. The Egyptians, Hellenist Greeks, Romans and even the USSR all collapsed because of social policies. WELFARE STATES DONT WORK.

            Stop bitching and start producing. Get a job and go to work reliably. Stop mooching off your mother. Quite applying for government aids. Support yourself. Buy your own food. Pay for your own school. If you have to work through college then just fucking do it. Life isnt easy, and the fucking socialist government isnt going to make it easy. When the government that you love so much collapses because it can't support you and all your socialist cronies, then what the fuck are you going to do then? Huh? Will you finally get off your lazy fucking ass and get a job then?
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            • Originally posted by duby229 View Post
              I hate to to be the one to tell, you, but you don't know history very well. The Egyptians, Hellenist Greeks, Romans and even the USSR all collapsed because of social policies. WELFARE STATES DONT WORK.

              Stop bitching and start producing.
              I hate to be the one to tell you, but the US no longer produces anything.

              It's a service-level economy now.

              So by your own standards - you're in a world of shit right now.

              Stop listening to Obama and start growing a brain and realizing that while you were counting your 'enterpreneur app store' eggs before they hatched, massive European-style austerity is looming around the corner.

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              • Originally posted by Squarepusher View Post
                Too much SoCal 'peacock behavior' and too little 'working class solidarity' to give a shit about other people, the poor, charity, et al.
                In this world, you look out for yourself and your immediate group only. That is how it has always been.

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                • Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
                  In this world, you look out for yourself and your immediate group only. That is how it has always been.
                  LOL.

                  With that attitude the elite will ream your clock and badly.

                  But then again - 'socially backwards autistic nerds' are hardly the people to go to for social-economic sound policies - so I'm not surprised to see you all adhering to this 'everyone for themselves' axiom - you don't know any better. But it will absolutely fuck you up and set back the clock for another good 10-20 years before you realize just how destructive that mentality is.

                  In a world where 'you look out for yourself and your immediate group only' - guess what happens dipshit?

                  The banks look out for themselves and their immediate group only.
                  The government looks out for itself and its immediate group only.
                  The EU looks out for itself and its immediate group only.
                  The entrepreneur looks out for himself and his immediate group only.
                  The customer looks out for himself and his immediate group only.

                  Everybody tries to scam everybody thinking that only they 'matter', and guess what happens then Sherlock? Your society COLLAPSES - in slow motion .That is what is happening in Europe because it got corrupted by the same virus that America is corrupted by, and this is also what your piece of shit mentality is bringing to the US. A society that works by 'scamming other people' DOES NOT WORK. Libertarian crackpot philosophies don't work. 'Everybody fends for themselves' is what led Britain to ruin under Margaret Thatcher's regime - which is why they are now a post-industrial rubbleheap.

                  And here you are talking about 'welfare doesn't work ' when it's predominantly US companies that move to Holland to get a 'Dutch double dip sandwich' so they don't have to pay any taxes. Socialism run by the big banks and business indeed does not work. But notice - you autistic nerds are so pathetic that you waive your RIGHTS to even program in your own spare time to one of these pathetic companies if it means you can get an NDA from these shitty companies. You have no standards - no backbone - no integrity - no nothing - and the Human Relations department always wins.

                  Programmer nerds these days are the most spineless pathetic people around - zero integrity, they don't believe in unions (so they are easily the boss' bitch and can be treated and exploited like a professional wrestler or somebody who doesn't enjoy any worker's protection), and generally what they are is socially maladjusted cowards that just want to disconnect from the world and 'not give a shit'. It's sad that people who are highly skilled workers are content with sweatshop working standard conditions from their employers. Time to grow a backbone and realize that 'competing with China/India' is going to end up very badly for your living standard - and these IT managers won't give a shit if you get taken down a few notches in that department - perpetual crunch time for all is their motto.
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                  • Originally posted by Squarepusher View Post
                    Hey bubba - I can't help it if the socially backwards country you live in glorifies killing, glorifies torture, glorifies abuse and glorifies bombs. You reap what you sow. We don't have those problems over here in Europe for the most part (unless it happens to be Eastern-European marauding gangs and other 'import' products 'culturally enriching' society at large).
                    Ohh yeah. It's not like there have been any bombings in Madrid or London or anything.

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                    • Originally posted by Squarepusher View Post
                      *snip*
                      If you cannot even be bothered to gather up the motivation to work for your own sake then you don't have any moral right to lecture those who do.

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                      • Originally posted by johnc View Post
                        Ohh yeah. It's not like there have been any bombings in Madrid or London or anything.
                        Those were actual terroristic events.

                        This is nothing. This is about a handful of people dead by two people brought up on a culture of 'ultra-violence' - you reap what you sow. It's tragic for the 10 or so people that got killed, but seriously - it is not in any way even a newsworthy event. Get over it - get on with your life - it's insignificant to what is really important right now - which is that Obama is gutting Medicare and depriving the sick, the elderly, the needy, the crippled who need a social safety net THE MOST.

                        If you can only get worked up over amateur bombs set up by Chechens but not by actual real working class struggles - then you are going to lose big. Sorry for breaking it to you but you are falling for pathetic 'wedge issues' and nonevents. Focus on something important - this Boston bombing is jack-all important in the grand scheme of things.

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                        • Originally posted by Squarepusher View Post
                          I hate to be the one to tell you, but the US no longer produces anything.

                          It's a service-level economy now.

                          So by your own standards - you're in a world of shit right now.

                          Stop listening to Obama and start growing a brain and realizing that while you were counting your 'enterpreneur app store' eggs before they hatched, massive European-style austerity is looming around the corner.
                          The american economy is worth dozens of trillions of dollars right now. And Rising. Hell, Texas by itself is the 6th largest economy in the world. If you don't think we produce anything, then WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU BITCHING ABOUT?

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                          • Originally posted by duby229 View Post
                            The american economy is worth dozens of trillions of dollars right now. And Rising. Hell, Texas by itself is the 6th largest economy in the world. If you don't think we produce anything, then WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU BITCHING ABOUT?
                            Thing is, your economy is also having to shoulder a ludicrously large amount of national debt. And that is what worries the economists.

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                            • Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
                              Thing is, your economy is also having to shoulder a ludicrously large amount of national debt. And that is what worries the economists.
                              Understood and I agree. Unfortunately I'm not the one in charge. There is a large socialist group in the US that believes that spending debt will influence the economy to grow. I disagree. I think reducing debt (reducing debt = spending less) and saving money in a surplus account would allow for lower taxes. Relieving taxpayers from giving their hard earned dollars to the government would help tremendously. I'm not saying the government should start hoarding money either. That would be be just as bad. But they should keep a substantial surplus available.

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                              • Originally posted by duby229 View Post
                                Understood and I agree. Unfortunately I'm not the one in charge. There is a large socialist group in the US that believes that spending debt will influence the economy to grow. I disagree. I think reducing debt (reducing debt = spending less) and saving money in a surplus account would allow for lower taxes. Relieving taxpayers from giving their hard earned dollars to the government would help tremendously. I'm not saying the government should start hoarding money either. That would be be just as bad. But they should keep a substantial surplus available.
                                Then you are a damn moron if you believe that - because this 'reducing the deficit' garbage is what is killing Europe right now.

                                Really - step off your crackpot Ron Paul/Rand Paul Libertarian theories concerned with 'reducing the deficit' and all this claptrap - now if you're a Southerner I understand why you think like that but damn son - can't you aim a little higher than that garbage?

                                BTW - if you want your 'Ron Paul/Rand Paul' President so badly - I have a suggestion for you - move over to Holland - we already have a 'Ron Paul/Rand Paul' government over here in control that believes in privatizing goddamn everything including your drinking water. And guess what their economic policies spell to the country? S-L-O-W DEATH.

                                And people believe modernday Europe is ruled by 'socialism' - yeah right - perhaps Americans want to point Europe on a map again and start revisiting their ancient theories on Europe - what is 'sweeping' Europe right now is Republican far-right libertarian crackpot ideas concerning 'economics'. Socialism is not your problem right now in Europe - it is so far gone there is no socialism left - but fascist Libertarian crackpot ideals are.
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