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    Phoronix: Valve Publishes Packages For Their Linux Distribution

    For Valve's forthcoming Linux-based Steam gaming console the first packages are starting to emerge within a package repository on the SteamPowered web-server...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM0MDc

  • #2
    As I thought before, Ubuntu is becoming an "standard" for Linux distributions.

    Well, less time maintaining different distros, is more time to polish the user experience.

    Is not as bad as we think, even we have derivatives of it that maintain some freedom.

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    • #3
      I just hope the steambox is at a good price range from competitors.

      not sure if they will use the "5 year, but expensive" no upgrade model or be more like Ouya and be very affordable with avg. hardware but then release upgrades like every 2 years.

      I mean the SB will be to standard linux what Ouya will be to android.

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      • #4
        Thought that Plymouth do not work with proprietary blobs..


        So they will use Nvidia hw? AMD what do you think about it? Lost nice sale bust do to poor gpu driver (and especially poor update policy for new X.org/kernel releases, people who want to build solutions do not like to wait..)

        On the other hand, does Nvidia gpu driver support pure OpenGL ES 3.0 (that is: can we create OpenGL ES 3.0 context?)

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        • #5
          I was thinking the same thing: Are we to interpret this as being a rather definitive sign that they are using Nvidia?

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          • #6
            Why?

            Why nobody really thinks about Intel HW? The upcoming GPUs with dedicated memory could have some nice power and with some ULW CPU the box could be really small and quiet + the driver is FOSS...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by przemoli View Post
              Thought that Plymouth do not work with proprietary blobs..
              It works, but usually in a non-native resolution.

              Originally posted by Redi44 View Post
              Why nobody really thinks about Intel HW? The upcoming GPUs with dedicated memory could have some nice power and with some ULW CPU the box could be really small and quiet + the driver is FOSS...
              Because it's upcoming. They can't depend on promises alone.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Redi44 View Post
                Why nobody really thinks about Intel HW? The upcoming GPUs with dedicated memory could have some nice power and with some ULW CPU the box could be really small and quiet + the driver is FOSS...
                Intel's HW is not powerful enough for any serious games. Also, their drivers are open source, but pretty crappy. Compare their performance to their Windows counterpart.

                Also, Intel's drivers suck at 2D too. I use Gentoo and every second intel driver release screws something up.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Redi44 View Post
                  Why nobody really thinks about Intel HW? The upcoming GPUs with dedicated memory could have some nice power and with some ULW CPU the box could be really small and quiet + the driver is FOSS...
                  Stop kidding. Intel hardware is way too slow for games. I'm glad they have chosen Nvidia, because it's simply the best choice. Furthermore, Ubuntu is turning to Qt and this is another reason to like it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Serge View Post
                    I was thinking the same thing: Are we to interpret this as being a rather definitive sign that they are using Nvidia?
                    It's the only sane choice with AMD's current state of graphics drivers.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LubosD View Post
                      Also, their drivers are open source, but pretty crappy. Compare their performance to their Windows counterpart.
                      Not just performance. A LOT of Steam for Linux games won't run on Intel.

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                      • #12
                        In that interview with Gabe Newell on theverge.com a few months back where he talks about the good, better, best hardware tiers he made it pretty clear that Valve's own offering would target the "better" level. Which will have dedicated cpu & gpu, yet with a focus on being small, cool and quiet. Considering the state of drivers I am not at all surprised about them favoring nVidia. There was also definitely talk about taking advantage of the next generation of post-Kepler (Maxwell) gpus at some point, so their intentions to work with nVidia seem pretty clear. Hard to say what card they will settle on for their initial release considering that nVidia and AMD are pushing their new card releases back to the fourth quarter of this year.

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                        • #13
                          Nope.

                          What makes you think that they don't have access to the upcoming Intel HW? (Also every time there is some Valve article there is something like "they invest heavily in FOSS drivers) And nope, Its OK for Source games which is the starting point anyway (1366x768 weakest Intel 4000 and TF2 can run on medium details). Also I own quite a lot of Steam Linux games and they all runs well on the FOSS driver (including SS3). And how exactly are the drivers crappy? MESA 9.1 is pretty good... No crashes, everything is native etc.
                          Where is the problem then?
                          There will definitely be more version, what makes you think that the "original one" wont be Intel?

                          BTW this is Valve time we are talking about, Haswell could be only use in beta version of Steam Box with the real thing being powered by next gen Intel...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Redi44 View Post
                            What makes you think that they don't have access to the upcoming Intel HW? (Also every time there is some Valve article there is something like "they invest heavily in FOSS drivers) And nope, Its OK for Source games which is the starting point anyway (1366x768 weakest Intel 4000 and TF2 can run on medium details). Also I own quite a lot of Steam Linux games and they all runs well on the FOSS driver (including SS3). And how exactly are the drivers crappy? MESA 9.1 is pretty good... No crashes, everything is native etc.
                            Where is the problem then?
                            There will definitely be more version, what makes you think that the "original one" wont be Intel?

                            BTW this is Valve time we are talking about, Haswell could be only use in beta version of Steam Box with the real thing being powered by next gen Intel...
                            The problem is you have to play TF2 on medium details and you don't even play in fullHD.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Redi44 View Post
                              What makes you think that they don't have access to the upcoming Intel HW? (Also every time there is some Valve article there is something like "they invest heavily in FOSS drivers) And nope, Its OK for Source games which is the starting point anyway (1366x768 weakest Intel 4000 and TF2 can run on medium details). Also I own quite a lot of Steam Linux games and they all runs well on the FOSS driver (including SS3). And how exactly are the drivers crappy? MESA 9.1 is pretty good... No crashes, everything is native etc.
                              Where is the problem then?
                              There will definitely be more version, what makes you think that the "original one" wont be Intel?

                              BTW this is Valve time we are talking about, Haswell could be only use in beta version of Steam Box with the real thing being powered by next gen Intel...
                              (Emphasis mine)

                              Try running Crysis 3 on Intel hardware. Intel completely sucks in the GPU department. They are only good for undemanding games like Source games and some indie games. If Valve wants to play in the big league they have no choice but to go with Nvidia(AMD would be a choice if they weren't using Linux).

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