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  • #61
    Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
    Exactly. It's just a matter of being smart and use cross platform tools or being dumb and use windoeze tools.
    ???

    Used them?

    They are good. Very good. Nothing to beat them. DX/Win-specific API's wont go away shortly nor tooling around them. Its not about NOT using window's specific libs/tools but about how much you can earn by also using libs/tooling supporting other platforms.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
      Exactly. It's just a matter of being smart and use cross platform tools or being dumb and use windoeze tools.
      Well it doesn't help every tutorial and example on the web is DX centered (yes I know there are a few *old* openGL ones).

      I programmed in assembly because single core low IPC/frequency processors needed applications to be as speedy as possible back then, GUI programming sucked because you relied on slow API's that could destroy any benefit from LLP. Now you can program in whatever filthy abstract scripting lang and still have a decent performing app/game because GPU's (and processors) are insane now. Abstracting layers like SDL maybe too slow 10 years ago but now, there is absolutely no excuse to not abstract game/program layers to be cross platform except because M$ paid them to do so... or they're lazy... or they don't care about cross platform... or they think Linux is commie crap... oh well, maybe there is an excuse or two,but that's about what they are is excuses.

      Originally posted by przemoli View Post
      ???

      Used them?

      They are good. Very good. Nothing to beat them. DX/Win-specific API's wont go away shortly nor tooling around them. Its not about NOT using window's specific libs/tools but about how much you can earn by also using libs/tooling supporting other platforms.
      Yes, yes I have. The Win32 api had to be one of the most performance robbing hack jobs I have ever used. To it's credit, it was fairly standard and results were consistent (if not because most of the irrational behavior had been discovered and worked around). I was always trying to find ways to speed up Windows apps, especially GUI ones. The sad thing is no matter how awesome of a jump table window handler loop you made, no matter how quick hashed for clicks and closes, the best loops barely did crap compared to the msecs lost by the Win api... Yeah all gui's suck but still I won't praise that crap.



      Just so you know.. A hyper visor with running on a processor that launches apps that have full control of the workhorse processor and the workhorse video card is by far the best way to approach gaming and critical applications. In case you think I'm defending X or quartz or whatever I think they are all pretty bad.
      Last edited by nightmarex; 03-03-2013, 02:00 PM.

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      • #63
        Actually it seems these are still stats for Febuary 2013 and not for March. At least it says "Febuary 2013" on the HW-survey page
        see: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

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        • #64
          Originally posted by przemoli View Post
          ???

          Used them?

          They are good. Very good. Nothing to beat them. DX/Win-specific API's wont go away shortly nor tooling around them. Its not about NOT using window's specific libs/tools but about how much you can earn by also using libs/tooling supporting other platforms.
          They're crap and Valve has already proven this. Linux is faster with OpenGL. And no, I won't ever use windoze APIs.

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          • #65
            Asteroid on Vectrex. First PC was a 386SX-33 with 8MB RAM and 110MB hard disc. Slow to get started on the PC's I was, but never looked back.

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            • #66
              Well, I just bought CS:GO. I didn't like CS:S too much, but GO feels quite OK. Though the console-ish configuration options and GUI are a bit disappointing. Hoping for a Linux port soon.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Pallidus View Post
                linux gamers are a sad pathetic bunch


                throw them a 10 year

                HELL 10??

                like 14 year old title

                CSTRIKE ANYONE?

                throw them a 14 year old title and they will suck dick in bus stops just so they can buy it.



                you all make me sick



                get me black ops 2, then


                THEN

                I will consider
                http://www.geek.com/articles/games/i...m-box-2013034/

                Now kindly shut the fuck up with your inane blathering.

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                • #68
                  you shut the fuck up you dickless piece of shit

                  you really think all steam box games will be released for linux????? lololol


                  come back in years time and tell me how that went

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Pallidus View Post
                    you shut the fuck up you dickless piece of shit

                    you really think all steam box games will be released for linux????? lololol


                    come back in years time and tell me how that went
                    I don't imagine anything will come in a year's time. Two? That's another story. You asked for CoD on Linux and I gave you the best news available to me. If IW is interested in the SteamBox - which will be Linux based - I'd say that looks good for CoD unless they've gotten into lackluster flash games recently and nobody told me.

                    If you don't like that, then go fuck your mother some more when the dog is done with her.
                    (Do you *really* want to get into a Tourette's insult fight? Good god boy, I'll melt your computer. LOL)

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                    • #70
                      android is also linux based and tell me how many android games are available for linux...


                      ahahaha you sick psycho faggot, you can tell a lot when some sick fuck always resorts to sick shit ( beastiality etc ) to come up with insults.


                      I bet your hard drive is filled with all sorts of illegal pornography, someone get the fbi on this faggot's ass before he rapes more animals

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Pallidus View Post
                        android is also linux based and tell me how many android games are available for linux...


                        ahahaha you sick psycho faggot, you can tell a lot when some sick fuck always resorts to sick shit ( beastiality etc ) to come up with insults.


                        I bet your hard drive is filled with all sorts of illegal pornography, someone get the fbi on this faggot's ass before he rapes more animals
                        Pretty much all of them as near as I can tell, provided you're willing to set up and run an SDK. However, I'm getting the feeling that Valve isn't planning to do things this way as they've already ported two of their engines to Desktop Linux and promised to do Lin/Mac/Win releases of all their games going forward. Granted, caution is always good, but I think there's some real merit here for hope.

                        Wow, you're pretty quick to sling the homo-as-an-insult thing, aren't you? That's projection. Probably from having your uncle rape you. No fair asking other people for help. Everybody has you on their ignore list anyway, and nobody cares about your daddy issues, you gutter-mud whore.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Pallidus
                          great comeback faggo, you forgot to mention you are also able to the same in windows or os x or pretty much wherever you setup that SDK.

                          so, pray tell, what profit has linux gained from having a million android game titles available?


                          now do the math, you cock craving homo:

                          steam box will be ubuntu based. Same as chrome OS.


                          ubuntu will have Mir, ergo, steam will have mir or perhaps a completely new display manager...


                          now let's say Steambox is a sucess and it sells a couple of million


                          DO YOU REALLY THINK IN THAT GAY BITCH HEAD OF YOURS THAT A COMPANY WILL BOTHER PORTING SHIT FROM STEAM OS (a highly modified fork with new display manager, propietary drivers etc etc etc) TO XORG/WAYLAND or fucking knows what?

                          yeah that will be the day, for what? to sell 100 copies to linux players


                          lol


                          get real cock whore.


                          now enjoy me sodomizing that piece of shit whore you call mom and watch me as I cum all over her ass, she will then shit to live another larian

                          for, you see, you weren't given birth to

                          you were defecated into existence.


                          speaking of ignore, let me place your mangled and mutilated by dick ass(hole) on my ignore list because your fingers are lil assholes and you don't type, you shit all over these forums.
                          I'm civil by default, and can be offensive when I choose to be. What's more, I do both better than you. You're offensive because you can't cope with life, and you're a failure as a human being. Even your insults are childish and repetitive, and you can't manage basic grammar and punctuation. You also have a fascination with anal sex and feces ... did that crack about being ass raped by your mom's boyfriend hit too close to home?

                          Being on your ignore list makes my dick hard, because there is no version of this exchange where you win. If you respond, I own your ass because you came back for more. If you don't, I own your ass because getting you out of my life forever was the point all along. Pwned and done ... tool.

                          And that, dear Phoronix readers, is how you properly deal with a troll - you choke him with his own shit.
                          Last edited by Larian; 03-05-2013, 08:34 AM.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Larian View Post
                            And that, dear Phoronix readers, is how you properly deal with a troll - you choke him with his own shit.
                            Troll, by definition, wants to create off-topic discussion. So there is no point for troll to add anyone to his/her ignore list. So this means that... If Pallidus added you on his ignore list, he is not a troll. Which is kind sad, isn't it. As a side note for this discussion, you might be interested to know that in Finnish word "palli" is singular for "balls".

                            On-topic: I don't think the amount of Linux users will increase in near future this fast. The majority of people interested in Linux gaming are probably using Steam until now, so the future increases for Linux share will be much less. Current 2 % is pretty well on line with web OS statistics too (although they aren't very reliable).

                            However, things might change quickly if Valve or some other company decides to release some big AAA game exclusively for Linux first. Half-Life 3, anyone?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by mahead View Post
                              Troll, by definition, wants to create off-topic discussion. So there is no point for troll to add anyone to his/her ignore list. So this means that... If Pallidus added you on his ignore list, he is not a troll. Which is kind sad, isn't it. As a side note for this discussion, you might be interested to know that in Finnish word "palli" is singular for "balls".
                              I was under the impression that a troll was someone who just wanted attention, and wasn't beyond spamming or being as offensive as possible to get it. Besides he claimed to be a troll earlier in the discussion. Owned up to it and everything. I'm just granting him the title.
                              On-topic: I don't think the amount of Linux users will increase in near future this fast. The majority of people interested in Linux gaming are probably using Steam until now, so the future increases for Linux share will be much less. Current 2 % is pretty well on line with web OS statistics too (although they aren't very reliable).

                              However, things might change quickly if Valve or some other company decides to release some big AAA game exclusively for Linux first. Half-Life 3, anyone?
                              I do think it's all kinds of interesting that Infinity Ward is making this kind of noise about the Piston. If Microsoft keeps dynamiting its brand like it's been doing, well ... it's like I've said before, I think there's justifiable reason to be hopeful. Personally, I'd be all giggly if I could get Half-Life 2 sometime soon.
                              Last edited by Larian; 03-05-2013, 09:42 AM.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Larian View Post
                                Personally, I'd be all giggly if I could get a big cock up my ass sometime soon.

                                I always get the last word faggot. Now do as your daddy did and come gag on this nasty dick


                                but let me be a gentleman and tell you that if black ops 2 gets released for linux (desktop) in 2013 I will personally buy and send you a copy.

                                do you realize how stupid it is for a company to waste resources to release a game on a platform that reprents 2% of steam users?


                                let me put it this way: EVEN if that game gets released for steam box os

                                there is no way in hell they would bother to porting it (even if it was a 3 lines of code) to desktop linux

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