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  • #31
    Being on linux for so long, I must be out of practise, gaming. I played a few minutes of half-life and felt motion sick. That never use to happen. :S

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    • #32
      Originally posted by asdx
      Terrorist is your fucking DRM crap.

      So fuck you, pussy.
      Put your money where your mouth is, buy non-DRM games.
      Stop making excuses, pussy.

      Pirated games aren't any more open than DRMed games and a good chance to come with proprietary malware.

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      • #33
        Already generating good publicity

        While playing TF2 tonight, what were people talking about?

        Ways and how to install Ubuntu!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by asdx
          Terrorist is your fucking DRM crap.

          So fuck you, pussy.
          a little rhetoric knowledge for the people:

          these words are synonyms:

          Freedom Fighter (Positive) conflict party (neutral) Terrorist (negative)

          a second example these words are also synonyms:

          Alliance (Positive) Interest group (neutral) conspiracy (negative)

          and its always the same: one side of the interest group call the other side: terrorist and they are always a part of a conspiracy

          and these terrorists always call there allies a part of a Alliance and they think always they are freedom fighters.

          this means if someone calls you a terrorist he is just a part of the other side means he is a part of the conspiracy the enemy of your Alliance and the truth is he is a terrorist against your freedom fighting.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by asdx
            Also, I can't wait for Steam Linux games to start appearing in http://thepiratebay.se/. There's no fucking way I'm paying for commercial DRM crap.
            Ok, now there is finally someone who's serious about linux gaming and is really making an effort you guys only want to parasitize By not paying for the games you are making it worse or even ruining it. I bet Valve will monitor its success based on Steam's statistics. And if something is not profitable in the long run it's not worth putting effort in it. That's how it works these days.

            I really want to play games on linux. I am not a gamer, I work on my computer so I really love Linux for its efficience. And for the few occasions I want to play I really don't want to pay Microsoft any penny built on software politics I despise.

            So at lease I am going to support the move by paying for the games.

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            • #36
              I can't believe people are so venomous in here. You all sound like a bunch of Richard Stallman clones.

              If you don't want proprietary software on your systems at all, that's fine. Don't install or run Steam. Done.

              There are tons of people switching to Linux these days because of major support like this. Even if these people will still use proprietary software, they will provide us with pressure for major companies to support the Linux platform and free software with it. On top of that, these people have moved from an entirely proprietary platform to an at least partially free software platform. In which way is this not positive?

              For all the pirates in here - go fuck yourself. Either embrace the new gaming generation on your favourite platform or reject it wholly. Also, the software you'll be downloading from the pirate bay will still be proprietary.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by asdx
                That's fine, I don't care if the Steam games are proprietary or not, I just want the drivers and the FOSS stack to remain free and pure.
                Nothing is preventing you from not installing binary blobs. The free software drivers will continue to improve; I see no reason why they wouldn't.

                Also, if you're using a Intel GPU, such as Ivy Bridge, you'll notice that Steam does not ask you to install any proprietary driver. It's simply recommending you install the most gaming-compatible driver because that's what Steam users care about. Of course you can still use Steam without installing them, and I have.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ishayu View Post
                  Nothing is preventing you from not installing binary blobs. The free software drivers will continue to improve; I see no reason why they wouldn't.

                  Also, if you're using a Intel GPU, such as Ivy Bridge, you'll notice that Steam does not ask you to install any proprietary driver. It's simply recommending you install the most gaming-compatible driver because that's what Steam users care about. Of course you can still use Steam without installing them, and I have.
                  o well? I didnít know that valve gives away a Intel system for every AMD customer for free in a exchange of old amd hardware...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by asdx
                    Wow. You're the very first to make it to my ignore list on Phoronix. Congratulations. This is a sick attitude, you need to get yourself some help.

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                    • #40
                      You seem to be very stupid. Maybe 80% of all Linux games on Steam have been in a Humble Bundle before, that means they have been available without DRM for a while. Many other games are only funny when you play em online in a team like Killing Floor, partly Serious Sam 3 and CS (S). I don't get why you don't want to pay for the extra features that Steam provides. It is certainly not impossible to replace the steam libs by stubs but you don't get the same experience - right now many games are not so expensive anyway. I personally have got no interest in most former HIB games. But if somebody wants to send me a gift of some FPS i would not say no I have got already Killing Floor, Serious Sam 3 - and bought several years ago: Half-Life and Counter Strike (1.6).

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                      • #41
                        Bought a ton of games, have only had time to play Trine 2 and CK2 so far.
                        After reading this thread, maybe Ballmer was right about Linux users just not wanting to pay. Hope this kind of attitude doesn't make Valve rethink their decision about their new choice of gaming platform based on RMS zealots.
                        Last edited by peppercats; 02-15-2013, 12:08 AM.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by peppercats View Post
                          Bought a ton of games, have only had time to play Trine 2 and CK2 so far.
                          After reading this thread, maybe Ballmer was right about Linux users just not wanting to pay. Hope this kind of attitude doesn't make Valve rethink their decision about their new choice of gaming platform based on RMS zealots.
                          Well there are pirates on all platforms, of all ideologies. That said I would say asdx and pallidus are in the minority even here on this issue, even among people who oppose DRM, and personally I'm finding what they're saying outright pathetic.

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                          • #43
                            All I can Say. After reading this thread if I was game developer, I wouldn't develop any serious game for Linux.

                            Linux users population is about 1% on desktop, and they want to pirate my games. What a waste of time it would be for developing game for them...

                            Even then, they want from me to utilize partially working drivers, that at best can be used for some 10 years old games.

                            Guys. Please tell me you are not serious.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by asdx
                              There's actually a few, Amnesia and a few others.

                              But I think those were available before Steam.

                              Take a look here: https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7356...escent_-_Linux

                              I wonder if Steam Linux games will start appearing in torrent sites soon.
                              So you want pirated games because you want DRM free games. Yet you wont buy a copy of DRM free dark decent.You dont have to get it through steam therefore no steamworks.
                              Steam lets you know in either the game details or system requirements what 3rd party DRM will be installed. Valve encourages mods through the Sourcemod community and give you free dedicated servers to download.

                              There are also numerous windows games that have DRM in retail form, but do not have said DRM on the Steam version. There are also games that once had DRM, but it has been removed from the game entirely when it was offered on steam.


                              The stupid it burns
                              Last edited by DDF420; 02-15-2013, 03:59 AM.

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                              • #45
                                As has been pointed out previously, there are actually only one or two very vocal people here that are against Valve and are pro "piracy" (I prefer the term copyright infringement). I very much doubt this is indicative of the majority of GNU/Linux users.

                                I don't like that people are associating the views of these people with Stallman - very erroneously. Stallman wouldn't use proprietary software in the first place, so would never advocate infringing the copyright of these games. I personally agree with Stallman's views and apply many of them regularly (such as using the free software driver stacks where I can), but have not gone so far as to rid my systems of proprietary games - where I do try to honor the license agreements by paying for said games. Games are my weakness.

                                Many of the Steam games do indeed work with free software drivers - all the games I've tried in fact (and I have tried quite a few). Even many Windows games under Wine using the free software drivers work fine.

                                On another note, I wish Steam provided Wine integration for Windows games on GNU/Linux. There are many Windows AAA games that work perfectly under recent Wine releases and have no GNU/Linux ports. If Valve implemented this as some kind of unsupported beta option, many people could switch away from Windows right away. As it stands however, many people find Wine too much of a challenge to bother with, and most Steam users already have a collection of Windows-only games they would otherwise need to forfeit to make the transition - which will be a blocker for many people.

                                I wouldn't be surprised to see Valve team up with CodeWeavers in the near future, or start contributing patches to Wine themselves.

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