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    Phoronix: Linux-Based Steam Console Reaffirmed For This Year

    As said a few times already, this year will be marked by the release of a Linux-based Steam hardware gaming console out of Valve...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI2NTk

  • #2
    What I don't understand with this Steam Linux console what games will it run? Have they ported their 2500 games over using some proprietary wine solution?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by fettouhi View Post
      What I don't understand with this Steam Linux console what games will it run? Have they ported their 2500 games over using some proprietary wine solution?
      I hope they'll at least port the most important and famous games. However, I don't understand why some of the games already ported to Linux aren't available on Steam yet. Like those from humble bundle 7.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by fettouhi View Post
        What I don't understand with this Steam Linux console what games will it run? Have they ported their 2500 games over using some proprietary wine solution?
        The good thing about it coming to Linux a bit later in 2013 will probably be all the new games that are being prepared by developers for 2013. Some titles that currently offer Mac support but don't support linux yet are being planned, like we just got Torchlight and the leader of the Torchlight II project says he's waiting for Humble Bundle to contact him about a Linux port a bit after they've released the upcoming Mac port. And mentioning the Humble Bundle, that has been succesful at bringing more indie titles over to Linux. There are also a ton of Unity 4 titles that are working on linux support because it's a very popular game engine and it has just added a linux export option in the last few months. Blizzard titles have for a while been utilizing OpenGL and Blizzard has admitted they have a linux client for World of Warcraft in their labs but they're not willing to release it because they didn't see the Linux market as large enough to warrant offering support services. With there being evidence of linux users wanting to buy proprietary game content as of late Blizzard might come around because the company has also shown disdain for the new Windows 8.

        I wonder what hardware they'll use though. Intel processor and Nvidia graphics card would have been a no-brainer a couple of years ago but with the computer chip and software developers pushing towards on die GPU solutions and heterogeneous software it might be better to go with something like AMD's APU. Also, the new information coming out about the Tegra 4 is saying that the Tegra 4 would definitely be able to play Crisis and those are cheap to mass produce. There's also still rumors of an Nvidia Project Denver release coming up soon which is aimed as a desktop solution. Intel's Haswell chips should be available by mid 2013 and they are sporting an updated graphics architecture called Intel HD 4600. Personally I think a Trinity solution is the best value for a cheap but gaming capable setup in general but for Linux the sometimes disappointing AMD drivers may be too much a risk for Valve.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
          I hope they'll at least port the most important and famous games. However, I don't understand why some of the games already ported to Linux aren't available on Steam yet. Like those from humble bundle 7.
          But Valve has no control over other publishers content. It is in the end Ubisoft that has to deceide if the for example want to port their AC franchise to Linux. It just at least to seems like a huge amount of porting work that will years until it is complete and at that point the Steam console maybe completely irrelevant.

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          • #6
            "years" come on

            Originally posted by fettouhi View Post
            But Valve has no control over other publishers content. It is in the end Ubisoft that has to deceide if the for example want to port their AC franchise to Linux. It just at least to seems like a huge amount of porting work that will years until it is complete and at that point the Steam console maybe completely irrelevant.
            IMHO I believe that a steam box based on linux can be nothing but good news. I highly doubt they will need to port every title to be competitive, and even if they did who said it would take years. Maybe if it was just one person doing the work. The game franchises you speak of have teams of people! TEAMS. It wont take years, come on.

            Of course this is my opinion.


            I will buy two steambox's at least!

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            • #7
              Great!

              Now, let's hope they don't use anything from Canonical.
              But sure, this thing most likely will run Ubuntu. :/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by entropy View Post
                Great!

                Now, let's hope they don't use anything from Canonical.
                But sure, this thing most likely will run Ubuntu. :/
                The question is: Will someone be able to use it as a regular PC?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by entropy View Post
                  Great!

                  Now, let's hope they don't use anything from Canonical.
                  But sure, this thing most likely will run Ubuntu. :/
                  I'm sure it will be Ubuntu based but not Ubuntu by any means. Most DEs, including Unity, are not gamepad friendly. The default Ubuntu desktop also comes with at least 1GB of packages irrelevant to Steam, media, or games in general. Ubuntu is also missing a lot of packages that many games require. It wouldn't surprise me if Valve uses their own DE, or, stictly uses Big Picture mode with no other option.

                  What I personally want to know is what they intend to use for hardware. I wouldn't want to spend $350+ on a system like this because it includes 8GB of RAM and an i7.

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                  • #10
                    Compatible?

                    I have a serial port on my computer, so I can run a serial console.

                    Do I need a steam port on my computer to run a steam console?

                    Can I get a steam port at my local HVAC dealer or do I need to get a new computer?

                    Perhaps steam based systems are incompatible with the hot air generated by phoronix commenters?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by entropy View Post
                      Great!

                      Now, let's hope they don't use anything from Canonical.
                      But sure, this thing most likely will run Ubuntu. :/
                      Something wrong with it? It's the most popular distribution, so it's logical thing to use it. I prefer Kubuntu, but Ubuntu has better support.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fettouhi View Post
                        What I don't understand with this Steam Linux console what games will it run? Have they ported their 2500 games over using some proprietary wine solution?
                        No less then any new console I can ensure you. After all they will most likely all Valve Source title, so basically everything since Half-Life 2.

                        Now for third party, whatever already appear here :http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/

                        On top of other third party that actually have plan for Linux version of their game:

                        -Egosoft had X2: the Treat and X3: Reunion under through LGP, but didn't renew the publishing contract for they want to do it themselves, now that Valve going for that market. So will most likely see X3: Terran Conflict and X3: Albion Prelude, has there is already a Mac port, so port to Linux shouldn't be too hard, and will most likely influence the speed at which we will see X: Rebirth, yet to release title, come to Linux.

                        -ID will most likely be one of those to go with Valve plan, even through they started to lose hope with Linux, been one of the most experienced dev with OpenGL, which is also good chance for them to increase the sell of their graphic tool and engine. (Come ID make Doom 4 a Steam console release title, we know it would be the perfect maneuver and the greatest historical circle in PC gaming history, Gabe showing the world that you can game on Linux with the same title he did it on Windows 95)

                        -Unreal Engine 3 been successfully ported to Linux recently, has dev like Tripwire Interactive interested in doing port of their game (make Red Orchestra 2, on Linux come true please), most likely peeked the interest of other dev, considering how popular Unrest Engine 3 is.

                        -Double Fine Adventure, Project Eternity, Wasteland 2 are high profile kickstarter with Linux version already announced.

                        -Neverwinter Night has always run natively on Linux, even if was never officially release for it, due to the way it was programmed, actually you can just use your windows install disk to install on Linux with few modification.

                        -Unity engine game will most likely see port. Considering it mostly just additional compilation in their case.

                        -CD Projekt show interest in Linux in interview and they show will to go with multiplaform, has they started making Mac version available on GOG, Witcher 1, from their own dev been available for Mac, so will most likely see port of it to Linux. With some luck they will or already started porting RED Engine to be multiplaform, which would mean Witcher 2 and Cyberpunk.

                        -THQ seem interested in porting, but in their case it hard to know if just desperate or actual will to do so (but require more then will in their, due to their finance).

                        -EA will most likely have to at least plan for it, even if they are too big to move without Valve have many turn in advance, but they are also too big to permit themselves to ignore, just in case they are successful, so should see at least a few title where they test the water, to have some financial charts to show stock owners.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                          The question is: Will someone be able to use it as a regular PC?
                          Most likely, they said they were willing to let people thinker with it (it Linux not like they can prevent people from doing it, anyway, so might has well accept it, else they will just find themselves with Sony and PS3 situation), will most likely just have root access blocked by default like on Android, which you simply unlock and there you go, you got a Linux box running Steam distro, instead of a Steam Console.

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                          • #14
                            Chances are you won't see anything of Linux anyway. That's not how gaming consoles work. It would be pointless to have a whole distro under the hood.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
                              Something wrong with it? It's the most popular distribution, so it's logical thing to use it. I prefer Kubuntu, but Ubuntu has better support.
                              There's a lot of things wrong with Ubuntu. Popular doesn't equal stable.

                              Oddly, I'd much prefer they develop it with CentOS/Red Hat. Or Maybe even do something like Mer. Where you have a nice solid base, and then slap the SteamUI on it. Ubuntu, with their 6 months release schedule is far too unstable as far as doing a hardware platform.

                              I'm mostly Debian guy, but I tend to think that Debian, as awesome as it is, doesn't have a good channel for technical support open. Whereas something like CentOS would.

                              Then there's always Arch Linux. But a rolling release wouldn't be all that great either, unless of course they set up their own repositories, which I think they should/would do anyhow, regardless of distribution.

                              In fact I'd say doing a custom release based on Arch Linux would be a fantastic idea. With systemd it boots scary fast on a normal SATA drive, I could only imagine if they put an internal SSD in it for launching the base OS or even having a decent chunk of space for installed games. Would kind of go back to the awesome days of cartridge based systems, where load times were negligible.

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