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  • #31
    Originally posted by necro-lover View Post
    These valve people are really strange.

    they check for so many stupid things : Windows/Wine windows-clind-steam usage,Flashplayer installed, then if you want to join the beta you need to fake your distro : Ubuntu and you need to use closed source drivers for Nvidia+AMD the only opensource driver supported is intel and so one and so one.

    they really only want brain-damaged people.
    The assumption that only technically competent people should use linux is beyond stupid. Ubuntu not a "real" distro. FFS they made linux far more popular and helped making it easier for everyone.

    As for the drivers they need performance and want to provide a nice experience to the people using their products.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
      The assumption that only technically competent people should use linux is beyond stupid. Ubuntu not a "real" distro. FFS they made linux far more popular and helped making it easier for everyone.

      As for the drivers they need performance and want to provide a nice experience to the people using their products.
      ??????? is was not my assumption someone without any clue just use the opensource radeon/noveau driver because they don't have any clue how to install the closed source drivers.

      my assumption is that they really want brain damaged people who think that the installation of a closed source driver makes anything easier in the linux world.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by LLStarks View Post
        The irony is that the Steam for Linux community chat only works through Steam, which we still don't have a client for.
        FALSE, I just completed the survey via Opera ( the client could not find the Linux beta group lol), the boxes are there and you can use them to select distro and such, you can do it without any Windows or WINE run client, just register a free Steam account and visit the link.
        On a different thought, since you register with your ID and they have ID + System Info where they list WINE version and hardware specs, having and ID, having bought games ( important point one might guess ), having run Steam via WINE ( even WINE -git was detected yeah ), might improve your chances to access beta, well I hope.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by necro-lover View Post
          ??????? is was not my assumption someone without any clue just use the opensource radeon/noveau driver because they don't have any clue how to install the closed source drivers.

          my assumption is that they really want brain damaged people who think that the installation of a closed source driver makes anything easier in the linux world.
          The first sentence was a general comment. The second -for the drivers- was for you. I should have arranged the message differently but i was lazy.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Licaon View Post
            FALSE, I just completed the survey via Opera ( the client could not find the Linux beta group lol), the boxes are there and you can use them to select distro and such, you can do it without any Windows or WINE run client, just register a free Steam account and visit the link.
            On a different thought, since you register with your ID and they have ID + System Info where they list WINE version and hardware specs, having and ID, having bought games ( important point one might guess ), having run Steam via WINE ( even WINE -git was detected yeah ), might improve your chances to access beta, well I hope.
            What is the link fro the group ?!? i forgot to click it before closed window and have no clue what it is

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            • #36
              Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
              The first sentence was a general comment. The second -for the drivers- was for you. I should have arranged the message differently but i was lazy.
              OK no problem but i used the closed source drivers for years and it is a pain in the ass!

              I use the open-source driver Radeon because I'm lazy and i never had any real problem with it.

              But i had many problems with the closed source drivers... i mean real big problems.

              So no thank you valve should just go fuck them self!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by necro-lover View Post
                ??????? is was not my assumption someone without any clue just use the opensource radeon/noveau driver because they don't have any clue how to install the closed source drivers.

                my assumption is that they really want brain damaged people who think that the installation of a closed source driver makes anything easier in the linux world.
                for the users it makes everything easier. That's just the way it is...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by necro-lover View Post
                  OK no problem but i used the closed source drivers for years and it is a pain in the ass!

                  I use the open-source driver Radeon because I'm lazy and i never had any real problem with it.

                  But i had many problems with the closed source drivers... i mean real big problems.

                  So no thank you valve should just go fuck them self!
                  I expect that during the beta period a number of people will test the FOSS drivers and the devs will fix any problems. I was hopping that the intel guys that have the code might test it but i don't think this happened.

                  I understand valve. They wanted to reach a wide audience with this move and give a pleasant experience. Hence the Ubuntu and blob choices. They wouldn't have reached the same audience if they targeted Slackware.

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                  • #39
                    Steam Beta For Linux Possibly Launching At UDS On Monday

                    Steam Beta For Linux Possibly Launching At UDS On Monday
                    http://thedroidguy.com/2012/10/steam...uds-on-monday/

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                    • #40
                      Well from those 3 games i would like to test serious sam 3 as i know the old game part 1 + 2. I thought an uncut version of l4d2 would be nice to test

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                      • #41
                        Chillax

                        Just filled in the survey. The driver question was a little silly, but it is not such a big deal.

                        necro-lover: Plenty of ex-windows users have steam accounts, so requiring people to have a steam account is reasonable. Chillax my friend.

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                        • #42
                          Really bad survey.

                          I can understand that they want only ubuntu users for now (looking at the driver choices), but they specifically tell that they want the test to be performed on different hardware. How am I supposed to know which one of the 4 machines I have (and can easily dual boot to Ubuntu just for Steam testing) are least common?! What has my day-to-day choice of DE to Steam gaming? Isn't the whole point of testing to do it on at least few DEs or raw window managers? Same with drivers, if I'm going to be testing, I'd test both the OSS and closed source drivers for the GPU...

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                          • #43
                            Guys, don't forget that the linux world is new for Valve. They may expect linux users to be like windows users, hence the bad survey. So our job now is to show them that we are different just like the OS we choose.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Kano View Post
                              @entropy

                              I see no reason why a deb for U would not work on Debian when done correctly.
                              Sorry, my point was that choosing anything different than Ubuntu in
                              the survey won't (probably) grant you access to the beta this time.
                              Last edited by entropy; 10-27-2012, 07:39 AM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by AJenbo View Post
                                No survey for me using Firefox on Ubuntu 12.10, just submits emediatly...
                                I had the exact same problem with chromium. I clicked the login button and then I was immediately thanked for submitting the survey, even though I hadn't been presented with any options.

                                If I try to repeat the survey I get the message: "You have already completed the survey. Thanks!".


                                Rather frustrating.

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