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  • #16
    Originally posted by susikala View Post
    So basically, you come up with the same old fascist propaganda formula: those who don't like what we do should go somewhere else (or preferably die). It's only mentally infantile people who can't deal with criticism in a mature way.
    Its 1 guy writing these articles whose main income (AFAIK) seems to be advertisements and premium members... when you consider that, there's nothing fascist about telling someone to go to a different news source that may have a whole team of people with a fixed income.

    People who don't like certain things about a place or the place at all and do stay and voice their criticism (in a polite manner, of course) are actually the ones most valuable to that place. And there's a lot to criticise about Phoronix. As said before, you can't really call the information spread by this site outright lies because none of it was ever completely proven to be wrong (so far as I know), but the opposite is just as true.
    I completely agree, but it doesn't apply to everything. If you're paying for a service, it ought to be the way you want it to be. If you pay $500 to stay at a hotel and the decor was racist or potentially hazardous, then it is reasonable, justifiable, and even necessary to complain. If you just simply don't like their decor because it doesn't suit your taste, then go somewhere else - nobody is forcing you to go there. An organization should not have to change everything because a couple people don't prefer what they do. There's a line between righteously complaining and complaining because you feel entitled to. Freedom of speech gives you the entitlement to publish things as you see fit, and it also means it gives others the right to complain. However, neither the publishing nor the complaining is always considered acceptable.

    So with phoronix, unless you are a premium member or unless Michael said something deliberately offensive, you are free to complain but you are not obligated to see changes. This is a technically a free-to-view personal website. That being said, if you don't like it, go somewhere else. This isn't being fascist, its being realistic.

    In addition, the tone this site has taken in the last few years has really become horrible. Too many news articles are formulated in a way to make you click on the title and read more (read: generate more money so the Phoronix staff can drink beer and fly to another city every two weeks). Usually you don't find anything valuable and feel kind of cheated by the site.
    I can't say I disagree with that, but again, its a personal website and Michael keeps it running using advertisements. If the ads load because of a new article, then he gets a little bit extra to keep it going without paying out of his pocket. I too would prefer more fruitful posts but since I'm not paying anything and I'm likely bored when viewing the website, I don't really care.

    First, the title and subtitle say _exactly_ the same thing. There's no new information in the subtitle other than that Mason is the lead developer of the Btrfs filesystem, which is something probably every reader on this site knows. But the subtitle doesn't answer two very important questions which I'm sure sprang to the mind of anyone who read the title: 1. "Why?" and 2. "What will become of btrfs?"
    Those are valid points. Note that there isn't always an answer for #2, but #1 should always be there.

    That's what I mean. It's really pity to see one of the fewer comprehensive Linux news site go down the drain the way it is. I find myself visiting it less and less and too often not even thinking it worth my while to write something in the forum.

    Oh, and I haven't even mentioned the sell out to iEvil and Microsoft. XD
    I myself wouldn't be opposed to going to other news sources, but I like the benchmarking, I personally prefer the non-professional tone, and most other open-source news sources I've encountered just don't have that many articles, or the articles themselves are boring.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
      Its 1 guy writing these articles whose main income (AFAIK) seems to be advertisements and premium members...
      That is correct.
      Michael Larabel
      http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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      • #18
        Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
        It's too early for Valve to do any announcment. There are no reasons to also do it. They'll do it when they feel they are ready enough. Expect something like the end of this year or Q1 2013 (I suppose).
        Chronological time or valve time?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by asdx
          Fuck off douchebag.
          Some people are just incapable of handling anonymity maturely.

          Since this is his website, that's a lot like walking into someone elses home and telling them to fuck off.

          You should be the one leaving if you don't like what he's saying.

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          • #20
            Hey Michael, I sent you an e-mail regarding Valve's Linux ports. I doubt that I'd be doing a whole lot of work with the Linux graphics (at least not the really low level stuff), but I'd certainly be of use with the other aspects of the port, especially the audio portions. Let me know if I need to get in touch with someone in particular at Valve.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by flibitijibibo View Post
              Hey Michael, I sent you an e-mail regarding Valve's Linux ports. I doubt that I'd be doing a whole lot of work with the Linux graphics (at least not the really low level stuff), but I'd certainly be of use with the other aspects of the port, especially the audio portions. Let me know if I need to get in touch with someone in particular at Valve.
              Let me know when you're done with your current work as I don't think they would want to hire someone that can't start immediately as they are looking for immediate action right now on the Linux side.
              Michael Larabel
              http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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              • #22
                Why are you exposing here details that the original poster didn't? Is this serious, professional? Does this look like you really want to do something for the Linux community as you're contesting the whole time? What the hell is 'immediate action right now on the Linux side' for a company whose notion of time has ever been indefinite? Is there any serious company (which Valve most certainly is) who wouldn't consider anyone regardless of their availability based on their _skills_?

                You make Valve sound like an immature pack of people who suddenly decided they wanted to support Linux and now cannot find anyone to do it. I really doubt that's how that or any serious company works. I also doubt that's the kind of PR Valve is interested in or that kind of behaviour actually contributes to the viability of a possible Linux port of their games. Seriously, get real. Those things, if done rightfully, are planned years ahead, not on the whim of some reporter.
                Last edited by susikala; 06-09-2012, 08:41 AM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by susikala View Post
                  You make Valve sound like an immature pack of people who suddenly decided they wanted to support Linux and now cannot find anyone to do it. I really doubt that's how that or any serious company works.
                  Valve is run very differently from your typical company. Google Valve's Employee Handbook to understand just *how* different it is.

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                  • #24
                    I would love to work for Valve. Problem is that I live in Australia.

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