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  • #76
    Originally posted by allquixotic View Post
    No, dude.. I'm usually thinking right along with you, but this time it seems like it's really not a joke. Valve is hiring a software guy to help them with Linux 3d. So that throws the server theory out the window.

    Is Valve trolling Michael? Yes, No, Maybe so -- it's possible. But at least I am convinced that Michael truly believes that he is in contact with Valve and that Valve is really trying to do this. Michael is being genuine.

    So this comes down to whether you believe that Gabe Newell is trolling Michael. Why would someone worth $1.5 billion waste their time on that when Michael has to make a big deal out of affording a $500 graphics card for his tests? I really don't think Gabe and Michael are on this level. Unless Gabe is just plain mean-spirited and ugly.

    Well, he is ugly.
    They're certainly not trolling... And for those suggesting Gordon for this Valve work, he already turned down their offer. I quote Valve, "Hes a great guy and exactly the type of person wed love to get over here. Unfortunately, at the moment hes very interested in not moving. Feel free to try and convince him otherwise though!"

    For all the doubters, when I'm at their offices (in April) hopefully they'll let me record a Phoronix video with I and Gabe confirming the Linux client work... Would that convince you all?
    Michael Larabel
    http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Michael View Post
      They're certainly not trolling... And for those suggesting Gordon for this Valve work, he already turned down their offer. I quote Valve, "Hes a great guy and exactly the type of person wed love to get over here. Unfortunately, at the moment hes very interested in not moving. Feel free to try and convince him otherwise though!"

      For all the doubters, when I'm at their offices (in April) hopefully they'll let me record a Phoronix video with I and Gabe confirming the Linux client work... Would that convince you all?
      The "doubters" will need to install a Source engine game on their computer, then examine the binaries in fine detail to verify that it isn't just a Wine wrapper, before they concede anything.

      I like to maintain a healthy dose of skepticism, myself, but I'm reasonably convinced that this is a reality. And by "this", I mean, that Valve is looking into hiring someone to do this work. Unfortunately, "looking into hiring" is a long way from "having usable, released software"; so although I am sure it will come eventually once they hire someone, it could be months or years. It depends on how fast the hired-person works

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      • #78
        Originally posted by allquixotic View Post
        The "doubters" will need to install a Source engine game on their computer, then examine the binaries in fine detail to verify that it isn't just a Wine wrapper, before they concede anything.

        I like to maintain a healthy dose of skepticism, myself, but I'm reasonably convinced that this is a reality. And by "this", I mean, that Valve is looking into hiring someone to do this work. Unfortunately, "looking into hiring" is a long way from "having usable, released software"; so although I am sure it will come eventually once they hire someone, it could be months or years. It depends on how fast the hired-person works
        Good point. A wrapper-based solution via WINE would only be half the deal (or less).
        I wonder how the "Dear Esther" news about the wrapper approach relates to this...

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        • #79
          I send to Gabe recommendation to look at Ryan Gordon works list. Few minutes ago he answer just:

          "Thanks.

          Gabe"

          Thats all.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by RussianNeuroMancer View Post
            I send to Gabe recommendation to look at Ryan Gordon works list. Few minutes ago he answer just:

            "Thanks.

            Gabe"

            Thats all.
            They've already been in contact with him as Michael said. Ryan doesn't want to move to go there and do it.

            It's no great loss. There are tons of extremely capable programmers out there who would love to work for Valve

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            • #81
              This news has made my day. Thank you Michael, I trust you and I can't wait to read details Have a nice day in Valve's offices

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              • #82
                Originally posted by allquixotic View Post
                They've already been in contact with him as Michael said. Ryan doesn't want to move to go there and do it.
                I see - few minutes ago get second e-mail, this time by Mike Sartain. He talk the same about Rayn, and ask me advice somebody else. So this time I recommended Alternative Games. If anyone else have other ideas - you probably need to send it directly to Mike Sartain.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by RussianNeuroMancer View Post
                  I see - few minutes ago get second e-mail, this time by Mike Sartain. He talk the same about Rayn, and ask me advice somebody else. So this time I recommended Alternative Games. If anyone else have other ideas - you probably need to send it directly to Mike Sartain.
                  Correct, Sartain is on this team needing more Linux/OpenGL developers, etc.
                  Michael Larabel
                  http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by allquixotic View Post
                    The "doubters" will need to install a Source engine game on their computer, then examine the binaries in fine detail to verify that it isn't just a Wine wrapper, before they concede anything.

                    I like to maintain a healthy dose of skepticism, myself, but I'm reasonably convinced that this is a reality. And by "this", I mean, that Valve is looking into hiring someone to do this work. Unfortunately, "looking into hiring" is a long way from "having usable, released software"; so although I am sure it will come eventually once they hire someone, it could be months or years. It depends on how fast the hired-person works
                    The doubter doubt for a reason, SOURCE/STEAM on linux has been hyped by phoronix "its this summer" for like 3years. Every other game-based news article then re-cited essentially some in-passing, non-citable, statement in the telegraph newspaper around the time that STEAM for Mac was coming out.

                    STEAM/SOURCE on linux would be a big thing! really big but with all the over-hype from phoronix over the years that it is just coming, with other source-based games (ie postal3) putting linux-native in doubt... to hear something like this the day before April the 1st simple stinks of tryhard trolling from Phoronix.

                    I /really/ hope that it does come, I would <3 to play DOTA2 native as well as get back into CSS, but Phoronix's trackrecord is still too prominant in mine and others minds on STEAM/SOURCE on linux and Phoronix's poor sensationalistic reporting based upon the flimsiest of rumour .

                    Until there is a citable statement from a Valve hosted domain this is just more trolling from Phoronix to the linux gamers that so wish their platform is taken more seriously
                    Last edited by Naib; 03-30-2012, 08:10 PM.

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                    • #85
                      Okay, I'll bite: Maybe try Edward Rudd?

                      He ported Penumbra/Amnesia and has worked on many of the Humble Bundle Games.

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                      • #86
                        Gordon@Valve

                        Wouldn't it be funny if Gordon started at Valve. Making HL working on a free OS. Gordon would be a Free Man

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                        • #87
                          If this is real it's big news, but too close to Aprils Fools day.

                          Sorry but too many people do this sorta stuff days before Aprils fools.

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                          • #88
                            What about TTimo? Didn't he just leave id?

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Dukenukemx View Post
                              If this is real it's big news, but too close to Aprils Fools day.

                              Sorry but too many people do this sorta stuff days before Aprils fools.
                              Yeah, but even trolling idiots come out and say "April Fools!" after about 50 people are like :OOOOOOOOOOOOO REALLY????

                              Michael has repeated dozens of times that it's NOT April Fools.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by allquixotic View Post
                                Yeah, but even trolling idiots come out and say "April Fools!" after about 50 people are like :OOOOOOOOOOOOO REALLY????

                                Michael has repeated dozens of times that it's NOT April Fools.
                                or this message should make it incredibly clear - http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...609#post256609 - I've never mentioned Sartain publicly (yet) on Phoronix and that he magically emails the other forum commenter after emailing Gabe? But as said, will push for them to do a Phoronix video in April.
                                Michael Larabel
                                http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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