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  • exactly!
    I can see it now and I even commented on it that when Valve release STEAM/SOURCE for linux (as I do believe some day in the future it will happen), Phoronix/Michael will be all over it "see see I told you that it was coming!!!"

    The issue I have with the sensationalistic rumour driven journalism that is employed by Michael is that it gets peddled as fact far to often.


    I have no problem with a rumour/hint of something being reported... but to stubbornly stick to a jackanory tale in face of other mounting evidence - I mean go back and read some of the other articles where he holds onto the "it will be released this summer" and upto when valve publically announce "no client due" - He basically belittled those who didn't believe him.

    Fact is we didn't believe because no citable proof was provided WHILE there was signs it was not happening (posta3 being pulled for linux...)


    Its happening again, no real proof... a screenshot of some email doesn't count - like I said some link from a valve controlled domain.



    Let it be recorded now: Microsoft will release office for linux.
    You heard it here 1st and I believe that some day it will occur, doesn't matter if it is 2years after the fact or 10years! I said it would happen

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    • I want to believe, but the "independent proof" not being independent at all makes this hard for me.

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      • It'd be pretty darn cool if this Valve + Linux effort lead to something like a "SteamBox" running Linux.

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        • I'd just like to add how easy it is to doctor something, with a little something I whipped up in ~15 minutes:


          It strikes me as odd that Michael took a photo of his screen instead of just taking a screenshot.

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          • Originally posted by leif81 View Post
            It'd be pretty darn cool if this Valve + Linux effort lead to something like a "SteamBox" running Linux.
            That was another rumor that got debunked by Valve.

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            • If Valve was doing something for Linux, they'd know that sending an e-mail about a Linux programmer to a Linux news site (?!?) rather than through more discreet channels would be tantamount to announcing it, so why not just put out a press release/announcement? That's another thing that doesn't make any sense. It would be like Angelina Jolie e-mailing the National Inquirer tabloid and asking "You cover a lot of celebrity divorces... can you recommend a good divorce lawyer?"

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              • Originally posted by alcalde View Post
                so why not just put out a press release/announcement?
                Because Valve isn't announcing support for Linux. They are simply making R&D efforts. Iff it pans out, then we'll get a press release.

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                • Originally posted by alcalde View Post
                  That was another rumor that got debunked by Valve.
                  Hardly. Valve just said they are "a long way from Valve shipping a hardware device". It certainly doesn't mean SteamBox isn't in the works.

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                  • Originally posted by leif81 View Post
                    Because Valve isn't announcing support for Linux. They are simply making R&D efforts. Iff it pans out, then we'll get a press release.
                    Valve isn't a pharmaceutical company, it's a software company. There's no uncertain experimentation involved in porting a 3D engine. If they're looking to add more people, then they're doing it, period. I believe it was Yoda who said "Either do or don't do; there is no try." There's no "try" when it comes to Valve porting a graphics engine to a full-featured x86 operating system.

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                    • Originally posted by leif81 View Post
                      Hardly. Valve just said they are "a long way from Valve shipping a hardware device". It certainly doesn't mean SteamBox isn't in the works.
                      It does, actually. As Tom's Hardware put it:

                      Still, regardless what seems to be going on with Steam Box, Valve marketing director Doug Lombardi claims the company is currently focused on prepping and shipping the Steam Big Picture Mode UI. He even admitted that Valve is building boxes to test the new Steam interface only. This new UI will reportedly make the online gaming service easier to use for people who want to play Steam games on a PC that's connected to their TV.

                      "We're also doing a bunch of different experiments with biometric feedback and stuff like that, which we've talked about a fair amount," he admitted. "All of that is stuff that we're working on, but it's a long way from Valve shipping any sort of hardware."

                      Yet hardware is not out of the question, as even Valve bossman Gabe Newell recently said that Valve will sell hardware if it becomes a necessity to keep the doors open.

                      On top of that, Lombardi didn't actually refuse to say that Valve isn't working on a hardware platform. Instead, he agreed that there's definitely nothing coming any time soon, nothing at GDC or E3. Like Newell said, there's a possibility that maybe some day Valve will make hardware, but Lombardi made it clear that (a) Valve partnering with hardware manufacturers and/or (b) Valve building its own hardware will not be happening anytime soon. End of story.
                      They all seem to be saying they would do it if they needed to do it, and maybe they could do it, but they have no plans to do it right now. It's probably the same with a Linux port of Steam. Valve producing its own hardware, even if it weren't Linux-based, doesn't make any sense at this point in time anyway. In a scary "post-PC" locked-down future where nothing, including games, gets onto PCs other than via the Windows Store, it would be a necessity. I think that's what they're worried about.
                      Last edited by alcalde; 03-31-2012, 11:36 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by alcalde View Post
                        I believe it was Yoda who said "Either do or don't do; there is no try." There's no "try"
                        Or was that Morpheus from The Matrix?

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                        • Originally posted by mikeplus64 View Post
                          It strikes me as odd that Michael took a photo of his screen instead of just taking a screenshot.
                          There are no reasons to not trust Michael. Could you imagine how big impact such lie would have on Phoronix? Michael started talking about Steam long ago and know we have some proofs. If I remember correctly he also said there will be another proofs too.

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                          • I do agree with Naib, that it would be great if the steam would come to linux, but the hype here is a little too much.

                            But if they really release steam and their games natively for linux, they will get my money... a lot of my money

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                            • Well, I believe in Michael this time around. I sent Valve an e-mail and got a reply, which seems pretty solid to me.

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                              • The reply

                                What did they say?

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