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  • #46
    Originally posted by byteframe View Post
    It's ok, wine is fine.
    But whiskey's quicker.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by deanjo View Post
      Umm, nope, UT3 engine was designed for DX9 hardware as well which should be covered by OGL 2.1
      ogl2.1=dx9BBBBB UT3 is designed for DX9CCCCCCCCC+VTF thats in FACT OGL3!

      because you can not run it on dc9 hardware like an X1950





      Originally posted by deanjo View Post
      Again not true. UT3 could use Physx. It was not a requirement. In fact IIRC the physx enabled levels had to be downloaded and were not part of the actual release. Also Physx is available for linux. In fact LGP even released a game utilizing it. Shadowgrounds.
      http://www.linuxgamepublishing.com/info.php?id=41&
      physX runs yes but on the most pc's singlecore only and old X87code only.

      in fact pysX is shit!




      Originally posted by deanjo View Post
      What? UT3 has been running in wine for a long long long time. Even the demo was playable in wine way back then.

      http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...ation&iId=5937
      ut3 comes out 2006 wine does a shit 2006 about ut3

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
        my info is right just because UT3 need vertex texture fetch VTF and an vanilla OGL2.1 can't handle this you need OGL3 or extensions but for exampel dx9 amd hardware can not handle VTF

        thats just an exampel.

        if the game runs on 2.1+extensions this means the game do not run on 2.1 at all.
        Dude I can tell you for a fact that that UT3 was running fine in early 2008 on wine on a 8800GT.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
          ut3 comes out 2006 wine does a shit 2006 about ut3
          UT3 came out November of 2007. Again get your facts straight.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
            ogl2.1=dx9BBBBB UT3 is designed for DX9CCCCCCCCC+VTF thats in FACT OGL3!
            UT3 could be even ran on a 6200 and even an ATI 9600.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
              if my quality is like the quality of the LGP DRM server then yes worst
              I have no affiliation with the DRM LGP uses- in fact, I've not heard from them in a while. Nice try, but no cigar, sir.


              last time i play an physX game it runs in wine right CPU only(amd card).

              physX for linux is just worst because x87 code no multicore and nvidia only on the gpu
              That's about to change- and it's HARDLY the same as "not there".

              my info is right just because UT3 need vertex texture fetch VTF and an vanilla OGL2.1 can't handle this you need OGL3 or extensions but for exampel dx9 amd hardware can not handle VTF
              However, the game WOULD run on DX9... Sorry, just because it wanted it doesn't mean it needed it. When will you figure out...you're arguing this with someone that does this stuff?

              if the game runs on 2.1+extensions this means the game do not run on 2.1 at all.
              Just because it can run on 2.1+extensions, doesn't mean it needs to or requires it.

              You may think you've proven your point, but all you've done is make yourself look sillier than usual here...

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              • #52
                Originally posted by 3vi1 View Post
                But whiskey's quicker.
                Heh... Thanks for the chuckle, 3vil...

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                  UT3 came out November of 2007. Again get your facts straight.
                  I'm unsure if he can, deanjo...

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                    Dude I can tell you for a fact that that UT3 was running fine in early 2008 on wine on a 8800GT.
                    2006 vs 2008 ? ''

                    you are right

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                      UT3 could be even ran on a 6200 and even an ATI 9600.
                      you also can run this game on vesa and without video output at all.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                        I have no affiliation with the DRM LGP uses- in fact, I've not heard from them in a while. Nice try, but no cigar, sir.
                        ok i'm sorry.


                        Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                        That's about to change- and it's HARDLY the same as "not there".
                        runs worst is the same as not there in my point of view.


                        Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                        However, the game WOULD run on DX9... Sorry, just because it wanted it doesn't mean it needed it. When will you figure out...you're arguing this with someone that does this stuff?
                        you also can play the game in vesa via software rendering just because if it wanted it doesn't mean it needed it.


                        Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                        Just because it can run on 2.1+extensions, doesn't mean it needs to or requires it.
                        full game? no you only speak about the half game because the half game works on VESA with software rendering to with x87 code singlecore and super worst with only 1fps.

                        Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                        You may think you've proven your point, but all you've done is make yourself look sillier than usual here...
                        to not release a game also means it runs bit not so good then better not release the game for linux.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                          I'm unsure if he can, deanjo...
                          http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal_...nreal_Engine_3

                          i count the engine.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                            i read this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_C._Gordon

                            very impressiv it locks like he is linux gaming himself.

                            very cool.

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                            • #59
                              Maybe this will just be another strange case of Valve Time!

                              Valve Time: "No comment."
                              Actual Time: "This christmas"
                              Item: "Steam for Linux"

                              It would make perfect sense! Right? Right?

                              I think they'll get Steam for Linux when it's done. Perhaps in time for Duke Nukem Forever.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                                you also can run this game on vesa and without video output at all.
                                Sure you can, but when your running them on those minimum requirement cards you are not running in VESA mode. They are running with hardware acceleration. When you said:

                                Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                                ogl2.1=dx9BBBBB UT3 is designed for DX9CCCCCCCCC+VTF thats in FACT OGL3!

                                because you can not run it on dc9 hardware like an X1950
                                that is a bunch of bull. Here is even some benches if you wish:

                                http://forums.anandtech.com/archive/.../t-129087.html

                                UT3 1024x768
                                HD3850 E2140 2.9 - 20/46.1/62fps
                                X1950 E2140 2.9 - 19/38/62fps

                                UT3 1280x960
                                HD3850 E2140 2.9 - 20/47.5/62fps
                                X1950 E2140 2.9 - 10/31.8/55fps

                                UT3 1600x1200
                                HD3850 E2140 2.9 - 3/38.2/62fps
                                X1950 E2140 2.9 - 3/24.6/39fps

                                Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                                Well first of all UT3 != UE3. Secondly even the first game that used UE2, Roboblitz was able to be played with hardware acceleration on these older cards
                                1. nVidia
                                  • GeForce 6600 series
                                    GeForce 6800 series
                                    GeForce 7600 series
                                    GeForce 7800 series
                                    GeForce 7900 series
                                    GeForce 7950 series
                                    GeForce Go 6800 series
                                    GeForce Go 7400 series
                                    GeForce Go 7800 series
                                    GeForce Go 7900 series
                                  ATI
                                  • Radeon® X1950 XTX
                                    Radeon® X1900 series
                                    Radeon® X1800 series
                                    Radeon® X1600 series
                                    Radeon® X1300 series
                                    Radeon® X850 series
                                    Radeon® X800 seriesM
                                    Mobility™ Radeon® X800 XT series
                                    Mobility™ Radeon® X1800 XT series
                                    Mobility™ Radeon® X1800 series
                                    Mobility™ Radeon® X1600 series
                                    Mobility™ Radeon® X1300 series
                                    Mobility™ Radeon® X800 series
                                Not even Epic stoops so low as to list cards that can only use software rendering.
                                In fact UT3 plays quite nicely on a 7600GT card as well with hardware rendering.

                                Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                                full game? no you only speak about the half game because the half game works on VESA with software rendering to with x87 code singlecore and super worst with only 1fps.
                                Yes the full game.

                                He is not talking about 1/2 the game. There are Physx and non-Physx versions of the levels. Also nvidia's Physx is being optimized for multicore SSE optimization as well in a soon to be released version of it. In any case even the older x87 base does not slow down to the extremes you are claiming unless for some reason you are running it on a underclocked atom processor.

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